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Old Jul 4, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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I changed out my old injector pump this weekend. I've got it timed static by lining up the factory marks. It runs decent but has an eye burning black smoke when I stomp it, no smoke at all at idle. You really can't hear it in the video but it has that psd clatter/ rattle.

Do have to say the new pump woke up the truck. I can actually break traction! I'm just weary because I have no egt and the smoke makes me uneasy.

DoYou think I need advanved or retarded?


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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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id say it is advanced right now, did you let it warm up to temp?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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I think it is on the cold advance. When it is revved it does not sound all that smooth to me mine does that when the cold advance is on.

Could you take another video of it once the engine is warmed up after a drive? unless of course it was warmed up already in the first vid.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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I have it unhooked. I retarded it a dimes width and took the idle down a bit. Ill get a new video in a few.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Sounds good, if it starts to sound like a gas engine, you have retarded it too far. Dont want that or it will kill it.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Here how about now after retarding a dimes width.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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what made you decide to retard a bit from the first vid (marks lined up) to the second vid (ip mark moved the drivers side?)
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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I know the factory marks are only really a starting point. It also seemed to have to much rattle.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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my timing ear is way to deaf to tell.she sure sounds like you have it in the ball park in either vid too me.
normally you need to advance 'em a tad to get a good rattle like you have.i think you probably did the right thing without having a meter.safer to have her a little retarded than too advanced.even if it is taking a slight loss of performance and economy for the time being,until you get the proper tool on her.
how does she feel when the torque converter locks up to ya?
one things for sure anyway,even if the timing is slightly retarded,it probably feels way better to ya than when she had that old tired ip in there hey?

you've got the soup bowl cut out of the lid,and running a clean filter right?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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OH yea she sure has a lot more go power than before! Starts right up with a flick of the key, and starts without glow plugs! Something its never been able to be done before. Yes I did the soup bowl delete. I'm turnef up one flat also. Only v black smokes on hard accel. I just wish I coukd get the fipl adjusted where I want. Its weird not having neck breaking shifts anymore.

what am I looking for oin torque converter lockup?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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nice.
well when your timing is dang near close,the lockup won't be a dreaded sluggish feeling.not even when ya start out going up hill.she'll just PULL nice and strong for ya.
what did you get for a pump? you may want to turn 'er back down a little if you dont have pyro.you won't feel any power loss at all by not rolling coal.try it,you'll see.
i just put in a IFS (International Fuel Systems) reman from U-Haul on ebay.iv got a larger than stock;3.5" free flowing exhaust and cowl induction,and the stock fuel setting i feared was too much still! she smokes a little black up hill,but only when cold.i figure its dang near perfect for my setup as is.with a stock exhaust/intake ducting,that likely would be too much.so just use cation is all im saying.you don't want to melt her down.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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IM getting an egt gauge next. As long as I dont stomp it I get no smoke. I have the same exact pump as you. I'm also geting some typ4 injectors here soon also..
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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it won't be real soon.i hear Russ's supplier got backed up on him again.
won't be 'til the end of the year.........but pm him,just in case he still has some left over.i didn't read his thread,i just saw it.so i don't know the details.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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I dont know if its just me but it seems to be running a little warmer, as in the engine feels like it has a lot more heat coming from it.


How do I know if my shifts are not to soft?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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to me it seems like your idle speed is a touch to high. mine idles at that speed with the cold advance on.
 
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