suddenly starting surging idle (loping) very bad in summer!
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Does kind of sound like maybe ICP, I need to un plug and try running, not sure which one it is so i'm searching for pictures, sounds like could be IPR as well. I don't know anyone else with a psd unfortunately. I will probably have to find a mechanic with AE but for now this is what I have now found.
For this guy it was the ICP sensor
2000 F250 7.3l Loping idle and dies. - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
2000 F250 7.3l Loping idle and dies. - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
#32
blowing compressed air (Pre-pump; I wouldn't go over 20-25psi) backwards down the lines to unclog the screens
For this guy it was the ICP sensor
a visual...
#33
Sounds to me like a new one is what you need. If you unplug something and nothing more goes wrong its a good bet that that is what is wrong.
#34
by this do you mean un hooking at the bowl and blowing back through all the way to the tank while tank is still installed? If so, does this not cause any problems with going the wrong direction on the pump?
I unplugged it and It didn't change anything. Could it still be the icp? Could it be the IPR sensor?
a visual...
I unplugged it and It didn't change anything. Could it still be the icp? Could it be the IPR sensor?
a visual...
No, you would disconnect before the fuel pump, (On the frame under the driver's seat) and blow the air backwards through the lines. Again, before the pump, so its just lines to the tank, NOT through the pump or bowl!
It could be the IPR, but I don't believe there is any way to test for it short of getting good oil pressure readings from a good scanner, and/or replacing it. I have read where some have been able to remove and clean the IPR and re-seal it with a new O-Ring kit, but if I remember correctly most of those who did ended up replacing them.
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#36
If the PCM isnt getting a signal from the ICP sensor because it is bad then it will just make bad decisions on what to do, resulting in your problem. Unplugging it will just make sure that the PCM gets a bad (no) signal from the ICP.
Sounds to me like a new one is what you need. If you unplug something and nothing more goes wrong its a good bet that that is what is wrong.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...2&d=1288732190
Sounds to me like a new one is what you need. If you unplug something and nothing more goes wrong its a good bet that that is what is wrong.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...2&d=1288732190
#39
If the PCM isnt getting a signal from the ICP sensor because it is bad then it will just make bad decisions on what to do, resulting in your problem. Unplugging it will just make sure that the PCM gets a bad (no) signal from the ICP.
Sounds to me like a new one is what you need. If you unplug something and nothing more goes wrong its a good bet that that is what is wrong.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/at...2&d=1288732190
Sounds to me like a new one is what you need. If you unplug something and nothing more goes wrong its a good bet that that is what is wrong.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/at...2&d=1288732190
ToMang07-do you know of a way to plow out the lines from the pump to the bowl? maybe disconect at pump, take out filter, and blow towards the bowl? Thanks again!
#40
no offense at all here, but I have read a good amount of posts saying to diagnose a bad ICP you un plug it and that puts the PCM in default mode...I will try to find some of those posts (EDIT: see pst #4, search icp sensor unplugging to see more https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...o-u-think.html ). I am leaning more towards the IPR or the harnesses. I found the outer harness I think and it is tight, probably should take of valve covers and check those harneses inside before even dropping tank(or blowing out) wouldn't you think ToMang?
ToMang07-do you know of a way to plow out the lines from the pump to the bowl? maybe disconect at pump, take out filter, and blow towards the bowl? Thanks again!
ToMang07-do you know of a way to plow out the lines from the pump to the bowl? maybe disconect at pump, take out filter, and blow towards the bowl? Thanks again!
#41
Thank you, yes I will and am going for that first. Thinking that first, then UVCH or whatever those harnesses are (do I HAVE to replace the gaskets when I do this? Will they leak? I know I should, but are these made to be re usable? I seriously have no ride making it hard to get parts...), then try blowing out lines(still wondering how to blow from pump to bowl...), then if that don't work drop tank. Might break into the fuel bowl before dropping the tank depending on suggestions because I think I am getting fuel to the bowl... (just because the way it sounds when squirting into bowl, I have listened to it squirt for years and its still squirting the same as always, doesn't necessarily mean anything though)
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