429/460 manifolds
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
429/460 manifolds
Hey guys I'm going to the junk yard to look for a passenger exhaust manifold for the 429 in my f150. It came out of a lincoln, do I need to find a 429/460 out of a car or will a truck or van have the same manifolds?
Moderator & parts slinger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 50,189
Likes: 5,792
From: S/W Missouri, Polk county
If you get some 460 car manifolds you might have to notch the top 1/2" of the passenger side frame rail for them to work.
Best deal is to find some 460 truck ones 2wd/4wd I believe they exit a little further back and a little closer to the block.
Best deal is to find some 460 truck ones 2wd/4wd I believe they exit a little further back and a little closer to the block.
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 785
From: Simi Valley, CA
The Passenger Car 429/460 exhaust manifolds are the same.
If this engine has already been installed in an F100/350, you will need the same Passenger Car manifold, as the '73/79 F100/350 460 passenger side exhaust manifold will have the exhaust collector in a different location.
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Well there were no 429s or 460s at the junk yard so I think I might order some from a different yard, or have my manifold welded up, or possible get headers. Anyway, now I want to know what this motor came out of since it doesn't sound like it came from a lincoln. Im have pics of the stock breather and passenger exhaust manifold and can snap many more so yall can help me figure out what this thing came out of.
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 785
From: Simi Valley, CA
Look for the block casting number...post what it is. Will be similar to this: D1VE-6015-AB
Going by an air cleaner decal to ID the engine size, what it's from...doesn't cut it, as the air cleaner (or just its lid) could have come from another vehicle.
429 4V: 1968/73 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars, 1968/71 Thunderbird. A 2V versions was also available.
Going by an air cleaner decal to ID the engine size, what it's from...doesn't cut it, as the air cleaner (or just its lid) could have come from another vehicle.
429 4V: 1968/73 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars, 1968/71 Thunderbird. A 2V versions was also available.
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Looks like the heads say D2VEAA. Couldn't find any numbers on the block. I'll have to search around on it some more.
Trending Topics
Moderator & parts slinger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 50,189
Likes: 5,792
From: S/W Missouri, Polk county
Look for some upside down raised letters on the block behind the starter. Or go to the 460 eng forum to get a ton of info.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
Ford Parts Specialist
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 88,826
Likes: 785
From: Simi Valley, CA
1968/71 460 installed in Lincoln and Continental Mark III's only.
429: 1968/73 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars, 1968/71 Thunderbird. 1973 was the last year the 429 was installed in Passenger Cars.
1972: 460 installed in Lincoln's, Continental Mark IV's, and 1972 Thunderbirds.
1973/78: The 460 was an option in Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars. Standard equipment in Lincoln's, Continental Mark IV's and V's, 1973/76 Thunderbirds.
1978 was the last year the 460 was available in FoMoCo Passenger Cars. 1977/78 Thunderbird's were not available w/460's.
429: 1968/73 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars, 1968/71 Thunderbird. 1973 was the last year the 429 was installed in Passenger Cars.
1972: 460 installed in Lincoln's, Continental Mark IV's, and 1972 Thunderbirds.
1973/78: The 460 was an option in Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars. Standard equipment in Lincoln's, Continental Mark IV's and V's, 1973/76 Thunderbirds.
1978 was the last year the 460 was available in FoMoCo Passenger Cars. 1977/78 Thunderbird's were not available w/460's.
Last edited by NumberDummy; Jul 4, 2011 at 04:40 PM. Reason: Added info.
Hotshot
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 18,423
Likes: 9
From: iowa
That motor has been apart and possibly rebuilt so what it's out of becomes irrelevant. Evam has it right, those heads would never have been put on that block from the factory (the D2VE heads should have been on a block with a D1VE casting number like ND posted as an example)
Unfortunately those are the worst heads Ford ever put on these motors. Not due to flow (they flow as good as any maybe even a tad better from the factory due to not shrouding the valves) Problem is they are huge open chamber heads that even with dismal compression numbers were still prone to detonation. personally I would look for a set of D3VE heads, this will actually improve power and reduce detonation and octane requirements. This will almost assuredly be challenge shortly by the D0VE proponents. don't buy into that hype. The D0VE will slightly increase power, not due ot increased flow but due to increased compression ratio requiring premium gas all the time.
Besides anyone having D0VE heads mistakenly think they are high performance pieces and worth a fortune, D3VE heads are taken off and tossed aside by people that don't understand the principles of whats going on.
Unfortunately those are the worst heads Ford ever put on these motors. Not due to flow (they flow as good as any maybe even a tad better from the factory due to not shrouding the valves) Problem is they are huge open chamber heads that even with dismal compression numbers were still prone to detonation. personally I would look for a set of D3VE heads, this will actually improve power and reduce detonation and octane requirements. This will almost assuredly be challenge shortly by the D0VE proponents. don't buy into that hype. The D0VE will slightly increase power, not due ot increased flow but due to increased compression ratio requiring premium gas all the time.
Besides anyone having D0VE heads mistakenly think they are high performance pieces and worth a fortune, D3VE heads are taken off and tossed aside by people that don't understand the principles of whats going on.
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
thats definitely something for me to consider in the future, I am eventually gonna be doing some stuff to pull more power from this. Thanks for all the info. I had the manifold crack welded up but I know thats probably not going to last forever. Does anyone make headers for this motor in this truck that aren't outrageously expensive? My welder was telling me how a set of hookers or headmans used to be like 80 bucks when he built cars.