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Originally posted by Horsepuller
Joe B:
I noticed you didn't answer Brian's question "are you an Amsoil dealer?" Please respond.
You made these two statements:
So just how exactly do you get your Amsoil?
Joe B:
I noticed you didn't answer Brian's question "are you an Amsoil dealer?" Please respond.
You made these two statements:
So just how exactly do you get your Amsoil?
Years ago I bought off a distributor.
Now I buy off the shelf from a local speed shop near where I work.
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If you want the number I'll look it up for you.
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No thanks. You seem like a good Joe.
Actually I read in another thread that you purchased retail. I was going to edit my post and try to add my $.02 to the discussion, but got an error msg when I posted and lost it all. Now I don't have time for a do-over, so I'll just have to come back later.
Scott
Actually I read in another thread that you purchased retail. I was going to edit my post and try to add my $.02 to the discussion, but got an error msg when I posted and lost it all. Now I don't have time for a do-over, so I'll just have to come back later.
Scott
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Joe,
Absoultely no offense taken on my part. It is nice to have a level headed (from all appearances) Amsoil fan to discuss the subject with.
I don't literally expect you to try and convince me I should change to Amsoil. I'm just (still) searching for someone who can look at my specific case, which I'd argue is typical of many, if not most, Ford truck owners, and show or explain how I would benefit from Amsoil.
Some time back, I perused the Mobil1 web site and I'll tell you, they VERY carefully worded their claims and said (without coming right out and saying it) that guys like me, (you know, your average driver) probably would not benefit from Mobil 1.
Honestly, if I was convinced my truck would be better off, I'd switch. So far nothing has convinced me of that.
Consider this.....a quest for knowledge.
Thanks a lot,
(hey John...what about you? You an Amsoil dealer?)
Absoultely no offense taken on my part. It is nice to have a level headed (from all appearances) Amsoil fan to discuss the subject with.
I don't literally expect you to try and convince me I should change to Amsoil. I'm just (still) searching for someone who can look at my specific case, which I'd argue is typical of many, if not most, Ford truck owners, and show or explain how I would benefit from Amsoil.
Some time back, I perused the Mobil1 web site and I'll tell you, they VERY carefully worded their claims and said (without coming right out and saying it) that guys like me, (you know, your average driver) probably would not benefit from Mobil 1.
Honestly, if I was convinced my truck would be better off, I'd switch. So far nothing has convinced me of that.
Consider this.....a quest for knowledge.
Thanks a lot,
(hey John...what about you? You an Amsoil dealer?)
Last edited by BrianA; Mar 28, 2003 at 06:23 PM.
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Originally posted by BrianA
Joe,
Absoultely no offense taken on my part. It is nice to have a level headed (from all appearances) Amsoil fan to discuss the subject with.
I don't literally expect you to try and convince me I should change to Amsoil. I'm just (still) searching for someone who can look at my specific case, which I'd argue is typical of many, if not most, Ford truck owners, and show or explain how I would benefit from Amsoil.
Some time back, I perused the Mobil1 web site and I'll tell you, they VERY carefully worded their claims and said (without coming right out and saying it) that guys like me, (you know, your average driver) probably would not benefit from Mobil 1.
Honestly, if I was convinced my truck would be better off, I'd switch. So far nothing has convinced me of that.
Consider this.....a quest for knowledge.
Thanks a lot,
(hey Jeff...what about you? You an Amsoil dealer?)
Joe,
Absoultely no offense taken on my part. It is nice to have a level headed (from all appearances) Amsoil fan to discuss the subject with.
I don't literally expect you to try and convince me I should change to Amsoil. I'm just (still) searching for someone who can look at my specific case, which I'd argue is typical of many, if not most, Ford truck owners, and show or explain how I would benefit from Amsoil.
Some time back, I perused the Mobil1 web site and I'll tell you, they VERY carefully worded their claims and said (without coming right out and saying it) that guys like me, (you know, your average driver) probably would not benefit from Mobil 1.
Honestly, if I was convinced my truck would be better off, I'd switch. So far nothing has convinced me of that.
Consider this.....a quest for knowledge.
Thanks a lot,
(hey Jeff...what about you? You an Amsoil dealer?)
Some like myself maybe love our vehicles too much.
I have a '69 corvette that I put maybe 2000-2500 miles per year on.
I use Amsoil 10w40 and change it once a year.
Reason.Because even if dino oil is in the pan additives wear.Thus the 3000 or 3 months.
I just can't see changing the oil 3-4 times with the oil having a few hundred miles on it or no mileage during the 5 months or so of storage.
I use synthetic in the trans and rear too.
I hope you find that quest for knowledge,Brian.
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Brian, thank you for the welcome, and yes, I am new to this board. I've been an avid Amsoil user for probably as long as Joe, who, by the way, I don't know. I use it mostly in my outboards. It is without a doubt the best 2-cycle oil made, (but thats another story). I'm not trying to convert anyone, Lord knows, as I believe Joe said, "Amsoil, you either hate it, or you love it". I just think a good controversy is good for the soul and is also very educational. I truly did not know that all Amsoil products are not API certified or licensed. It doesn't really matter to me, but it is very interesting.
I also don't doubt for a minute that the dino oil does a fine job for up to 5,000 mile intervals. But I think the extended drain interval has too many benefits to pass up. I don't like changing my oil any more than I have to, so I like the once a year option, and as soon as I can get to it,(after fishing season) I'll install the dual remote filter on my PSD so I can extend it even further.
P.S. Brian, I truly commend you for recycling your used motor oil. There are very few people that do. They think throwing it in the dumpster is the way to get rid of it.
I also don't doubt for a minute that the dino oil does a fine job for up to 5,000 mile intervals. But I think the extended drain interval has too many benefits to pass up. I don't like changing my oil any more than I have to, so I like the once a year option, and as soon as I can get to it,(after fishing season) I'll install the dual remote filter on my PSD so I can extend it even further.
P.S. Brian, I truly commend you for recycling your used motor oil. There are very few people that do. They think throwing it in the dumpster is the way to get rid of it.
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Originally posted by johnp034
. I truly did not know that all Amsoil products are not API certified or licensed. It doesn't really matter to me, but it is very interesting.
. I truly did not know that all Amsoil products are not API certified or licensed. It doesn't really matter to me, but it is very interesting.
Point of interest.
Amsoil's XL7500 series of synthetics are API approved.
I personally would just stick with the non API like I see we have for years.
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Joe, I agree totally on the non API oil. The experience I've had with it over the years is good enough for me.
Maybe someone can shed some light on this oil related subject. In my business, (we ship new automobiles from the plants to dealers) we use vans to run drivers around in the yard to pick up vehicles. These vans never see the highway, and very seldom see speeds in excess of 25 mph. Ford vans, E-250's no problem, Dodge vans, 2500 Rams, all kinds of oil related problems. Oil pumps every 12-15,000 miles, sludge build-up at every oil change, 3,000 miles or once a month. Had two engines changed at less then 20,000.
I know, I know, Fords are better, but at a Chrysler facility, we have to use Dodges.
Anyone have any ideas? The "Dodge Boys" tell us we're not servicing them on a timely basis. As I said, every 3,000 or once a month, religiously!
Maybe someone can shed some light on this oil related subject. In my business, (we ship new automobiles from the plants to dealers) we use vans to run drivers around in the yard to pick up vehicles. These vans never see the highway, and very seldom see speeds in excess of 25 mph. Ford vans, E-250's no problem, Dodge vans, 2500 Rams, all kinds of oil related problems. Oil pumps every 12-15,000 miles, sludge build-up at every oil change, 3,000 miles or once a month. Had two engines changed at less then 20,000.
I know, I know, Fords are better, but at a Chrysler facility, we have to use Dodges.
Anyone have any ideas? The "Dodge Boys" tell us we're not servicing them on a timely basis. As I said, every 3,000 or once a month, religiously!
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The only thing I can think of is the engines are never coming up
to operating temperature, and you are using Quaker State or
Pennzoil????
to operating temperature, and you are using Quaker State or
Pennzoil????
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Thanks for the reply, Bob. I don't know for sure what oil the're using, that one is not my site. I'll check it out tomorrow. What's up with the Quaker State or Pennzoil?
As far as the temp goes, you could be right. These vans run about 20 hours a day, and they may need a hotter thermostat. Wouldn't you think the Dodge boys would think of that? I guess maybe not.
As far as the temp goes, you could be right. These vans run about 20 hours a day, and they may need a hotter thermostat. Wouldn't you think the Dodge boys would think of that? I guess maybe not.
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From what you described, it sounds like the vans don't run that
long at a time, to come up to operating temp. If this is the case,
hotter thermostats will not help.....You might be better of letting
them idle, which will help the oil problem, but excessive idling
can cause other problems....
long at a time, to come up to operating temp. If this is the case,
hotter thermostats will not help.....You might be better of letting
them idle, which will help the oil problem, but excessive idling
can cause other problems....
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Joe and John, welcome to the FTE. Sorry, I didn't realize you were new. You will find a great bunch of folks here and we all agree that it's okay to disagree.
Joe, I have seen your response from Amzoil so many times I almost have it memorized. While I wouldn't use Amzoil in my lawnmower, if I had a D-9 Cat, it would be the oil of choice. I would also have their dual filtration system with oil pressure alarms. Considering the cost of their products and the risk (while low) of an oil related failure that I know will be paid out of my pocket, it's not an option for me. As long as everything under your hood is fine, the Amzoil should serve you well.
John, I would suggest that you change to a synthetic 5w-20 in your Dodges. Your going to get much better flow rates with the lighter oil, easier on the pumps, and it appears heat is not a problem. Also, run a Wix filter, they flow more oil but they don't filter as good as a Puralator. Should take care of your problem.
Again, welcome guys.
Joe, I have seen your response from Amzoil so many times I almost have it memorized. While I wouldn't use Amzoil in my lawnmower, if I had a D-9 Cat, it would be the oil of choice. I would also have their dual filtration system with oil pressure alarms. Considering the cost of their products and the risk (while low) of an oil related failure that I know will be paid out of my pocket, it's not an option for me. As long as everything under your hood is fine, the Amzoil should serve you well.
John, I would suggest that you change to a synthetic 5w-20 in your Dodges. Your going to get much better flow rates with the lighter oil, easier on the pumps, and it appears heat is not a problem. Also, run a Wix filter, they flow more oil but they don't filter as good as a Puralator. Should take care of your problem.
Again, welcome guys.
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Flash
I'm new here and in the appearance forum.
Been on the Expedition forum quite awhile.
Funny you should mention you would not use Amsoil in your lawnmower.
I don't either!
Actually only because I bought some Mobil 1 10w30 in a 5qt jug for $15 one time on sale at Walmart a couple of years ago.
My Honda mower takes 22 ounces.At two changes a year it'll be on Mobil 1 for a long time.
I'm new here and in the appearance forum.
Been on the Expedition forum quite awhile.
Funny you should mention you would not use Amsoil in your lawnmower.
I don't either!
Actually only because I bought some Mobil 1 10w30 in a 5qt jug for $15 one time on sale at Walmart a couple of years ago.
My Honda mower takes 22 ounces.At two changes a year it'll be on Mobil 1 for a long time.
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Originally posted by Flash
Seems we agree on one thing, Honda lawnmowers. My 1986 model HR 214 has had a steady supply of Pennzoil 20w-50 since day one and I change mine twice a year as well.
Seems we agree on one thing, Honda lawnmowers. My 1986 model HR 214 has had a steady supply of Pennzoil 20w-50 since day one and I change mine twice a year as well.
I have my Honda Harmony 4HP for about 9 years.
It's in the shop for the first time though.It's self propelled but slipping.Started happening last fall.I hope it's just an adjustment.A new Hydrostatic trans is $180+.Considering a new Honda equivelent is $600 so I'll have to make a decision.
Considering you have yours since '86 I'll probably have the trans replaced if necesary.
Shop guy says it's probably a cable adjustment or the wheel spockets? need to be cleaned?
First problem I've ever had with it..
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Originally posted by redvet
Flash
I'm new here and in the appearance forum.
Been on the Expedition forum quite awhile.
Funny you should mention you would not use Amsoil in your lawnmower.
I don't either!
Actually only because I bought some Mobil 1 10w30 in a 5qt jug for $15 one time on sale at Walmart a couple of years ago.
My Honda mower takes 22 ounces.At two changes a year it'll be on Mobil 1 for a long time.
Flash
I'm new here and in the appearance forum.
Been on the Expedition forum quite awhile.
Funny you should mention you would not use Amsoil in your lawnmower.
I don't either!
Actually only because I bought some Mobil 1 10w30 in a 5qt jug for $15 one time on sale at Walmart a couple of years ago.
My Honda mower takes 22 ounces.At two changes a year it'll be on Mobil 1 for a long time.
synthetic) on your lawn mower, but not your vehicles?????