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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 07:35 AM
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Vacuum leaks?

I'm having some trouble with my work truck. I can't just take things apart for a look-see, or run over to auto parts for a free scan.

The truck is a 2004 F-250 with the 6.8l V-10, 85,000 miles.

Are these engines known to have intake sealing issues?

Are there common areas for vacuum fittings or hoses to fail?

I don't want to get into the problem, or diagnostics. If I can't prove my theory, the truck gets parked, and I'm stuck in a dinky little Dodge until they can put it in the shop.

TIA, Mike

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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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Check the pcv hose.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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If I recall correctly, Harbor Freight has a mechanics stethoscope for about $3 that you could use to pinpoint a leak.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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I can hear a hissing on the passenger side, toward the back. It's not so easy to go poking around in there. I'll give the PCV special attention.

Thanks again!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 07:02 AM
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try the old trick, spray some wd40 in the suspect area and see if that changes the sound or idle of the motor.
If it works, you have confirmed the vacuum leak.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 08:02 AM
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try the old trick, spray some wd40 in the suspect area and see if that changes the sound or idle of the motor.
If it works, you have confirmed the vacuum leak.
That "old trick" only works on "old" carburetor systems. The computer is too fast on modern fuel injected to ever tell the difference.

If I recall correctly, Harbor Freight has a mechanics stethoscope for about $3 that you could use to pinpoint a leak.
The basic mechanic's stethoscope has a solid probe for physical connection to the engine so it can pick up mechanical vibrations. It will not be useful for detecting a vacuum leak unless you can modify it with a hose or tube.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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try ether or starting fluid it works on these trucks
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 03:57 AM
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Ha. You make a good point about the stethoscope.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 08:36 AM
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try ether or starting fluid it works on these trucks
Nope, the computer is still too fast. All you can do is connect a scan tool and watch the STFTs while spraying. Those will tell you when you've hit the right spot.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I've been able to detect intake manifold leaks on modern fuel injected engines by spraying a combustible fluid around the intake.
 
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Hypoid, check that infamous PVC plumbing elbow, right where it attaches to the throttle body. It's known to rot and/or crack. I'm lucky, mine is still good (knock on wood).

Other than that, no, the V10 and the modulars are not "known" for intake vacuum leaks.

What's the trouble? If it's running lean overall, clean the MAF and change the fuel filter.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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Hypoid, check that infamous PVC plumbing elbow, right where it attaches to the throttle body. It's known to rot and/or crack. I'm lucky, mine is still good (knock on wood).

Other than that, no, the V10 and the modulars are not "known" for intake vacuum leaks.

What's the trouble? If it's running lean overall, clean the MAF and change the fuel filter.
Thanks Art! I'll be sure to give that fitting another look.

After talking to Shawns Fords, I'm leaning toward a fuel problem.

When I told Shawn the truck would die when it gets hot out, he thought the fuel pump might be starting to fail. The pump is only a year or two old, but one of our other V-10 trucks is having trouble as well. So far, it has gone though one fuel pump and three filters. Methinks one of the company's fuel trucks is delivering a load of trash when we fuel up.

The whole time this truck is acting up, the gauges read normal, no lights come on. I shut off to give it a cool-down, or park it overnight, no problem until the weather gets hot. I had a brand X with an aluminum top end act much the same way, except they were known to have gasket problems.

Time to requisition a fuel filter, and another can of sea-foam.
 
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