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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Ok guys been having a vss hard shift problem I'm finally down to thinkin I need a new psom. went to a junkyard and pulled one and instead of just swapping the psom I put the whole cluster in to see if it worked first. problem is now truck won't go into gear and when I go back to park I can hear the pawl clicking before it goes into park. truck is a 94 150 cluster came from a 96 150. Any ideas? Am I missing something?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 09:51 PM
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Not sure I can help you with your gear shift problem but a '96 cluster will not work in your '94. You will need a cluster from a '94 or '95. Maybe someone will chime in about your other problem. Good luck.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 04:02 AM
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Clusters go by years....And by years I mean, to get a compatable one, you'll need one from the year of truck you have basically....

Here's the years, and how they work...

92-93
94-95
96

96 Is all my its self, because of it being a full OBD-II deal...Correct me if I am wrong on that one...

Otherwise...there's yer options...
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 05:35 AM
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Arrgh, thanks guys. Figures I'd pick the 96 to pull it from. I guess ill have to go back and see if they'll let me pull another one. I'm frustrated with this problem. I've never had a problem with a truck whip me yet,but I'm gettin close with this one. This truck is very clean and solid this is really the only problem it has.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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Just so I'm clear here I just have to ask, is the difference in the psom or the cluster its self.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 07:58 AM
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To the best of my knowledge the PSOM is the same, it's the cluster that is different.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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But the 96 cluster should not stop you from going into gear, you have some other problem other than the cluster. I also think the PSOM are the same.

You should be able to test the PSOM in the 96 cluster. The only problem you should have is with the 96 cluster is with the RABS.

Being OBD-II or OBD-I has nothing to do with the clusters. They are wired the same for the same year.
An 1996 OBD-II F150 and a 1996 OBD-I F250 HD use the same cluster.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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just throwing it out there... tv cable adjustment???? I'm by no means a expert on auto trannys but I know several problems can come from the tv cable being out of wack...

PSOM's should be swapable... If you want to be 100% sure you could PM numberdummy and he could probably tell you since he's the ford parts expert. agree with subford the clusters are all about the same and wire the same OBDI and OBDII is dependent on computer not cluster.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Thanks guys, I don't know what happend. Truck went into gear before I swapped clusters. I have no idea what could have changed. I'm goin outside to work on it now. I'll post what I find.
 
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Originally Posted by subford
But the 96 cluster should not stop you from going into gear, you have some other problem other than the cluster. I also think the PSOM are the same.

You should be able to test the PSOM in the 96 cluster. The only problem you should have is with the 96 cluster is with the RABS.

Being OBD-II or OBD-I has nothing to do with the clusters. They are wired the same for the same year.
An 1996 OBD-II F150 and a 1996 OBD-I F250 HD use the same cluster.
Isn't there a difference in the voltmeter/battery light circuit? I have seen several posts related to swapping in a later model (94+?) into an earlier truck then the complaint is the battery will not stay charged? Is the later cluster missing the shunt resistor across the charge light?

I know I could use my EVTMs, but I recall Bill covering this topic earlier.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Ok guys, I'm a bonehead, truck wouldn't go into gear cause the t case was in neutral. Lol!!!I moved the shifted to give me alittle more room and forgot I did it. I'm laughing at myself pretty hard right now.
 
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Originally Posted by rla2005
Isn't there a difference in the voltmeter/battery light circuit? I have seen several posts related to swapping in a later model (94+?) into an earlier truck then the complaint is the battery will not stay charged? Is the later cluster missing the shunt resistor across the charge light?

I know I could use my EVTMs, but I recall Bill covering this topic earlier.
The charge problem was between the 1992-93 cluster and the 1994-95 clusters.
But all of the clusters still had the lamp burn-out resister to keep it charging if the lamp burned out.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Ok guys, I'm a bonehead, truck wouldn't go into gear cause the t case was in neutral. Lol!!!I moved the shifted to give me alittle more room and forgot I did it. I'm laughing at myself pretty hard right now.
Thats ok... we've all made our fair share of bone headed mistakes... If you want to feel better I just had the 4.9L motor out of the 83 and put new main and rod berings into the bottom. I reassembled the whole motor and put it back in, bolted tranny on, and hooked everything back up... Wouldn't start... After 2 days of diagnosis and posts on here, I'm pretty sure I forgot to re-align the timing dots on the crank and cam gears... darn it SOB stupid!~... LOL anyway I am going to be pulling the entire motor again in order to put a 260h cam in, offey intake, re-align the crank and cam gears, etc etc... that's 2 weekends lost... at least yours is only a 10sec fix...
 
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