Help me with a carburetor swap
#16
If you'll poke your head under the dash of your truck, you'll see that all the wires you want to remove attach to the ecm, located under the dash just below where the radio is. The plug can be removed with a small socket, and the whole mess can be snaked through the firewall. Ford even made a rubber plug to put in the hole to make it look nice. I'll try to dig out my reciept for the one I bought from FoMoCo if you like.
After you get the wires out of the cab, you can remove them from their plugs under the hood and from the engine block (that's a ground that you posted a pic of, just like you thought) and get rid of the whole thing. Removing the wiring won't affect the running of the truck much, because you've already swapped to DS II. Once you install your new carb, it won't matter at all.
Please listen to AB and keep your EGR system; it'll allow you to run more timing and give you better mileage.
One more thing- plastic vacuum line IS available at AutoZone, if you care to have it.
After you get the wires out of the cab, you can remove them from their plugs under the hood and from the engine block (that's a ground that you posted a pic of, just like you thought) and get rid of the whole thing. Removing the wiring won't affect the running of the truck much, because you've already swapped to DS II. Once you install your new carb, it won't matter at all.
Please listen to AB and keep your EGR system; it'll allow you to run more timing and give you better mileage.
One more thing- plastic vacuum line IS available at AutoZone, if you care to have it.
#17
If you'll poke your head under the dash of your truck, you'll see that all the wires you want to remove attach to the ecm, located under the dash just below where the radio is. The plug can be removed with a small socket, and the whole mess can be snaked through the firewall. Ford even made a rubber plug to put in the hole to make it look nice. I'll try to dig out my reciept for the one I bought from FoMoCo if you like.
After you get the wires out of the cab, you can remove them from their plugs under the hood and from the engine block (that's a ground that you posted a pic of, just like you thought) and get rid of the whole thing. Removing the wiring won't affect the running of the truck much, because you've already swapped to DS II. Once you install your new carb, it won't matter at all.
Please listen to AB and keep your EGR system; it'll allow you to run more timing and give you better mileage.
One more thing- plastic vacuum line IS available at AutoZone, if you care to have it.
After you get the wires out of the cab, you can remove them from their plugs under the hood and from the engine block (that's a ground that you posted a pic of, just like you thought) and get rid of the whole thing. Removing the wiring won't affect the running of the truck much, because you've already swapped to DS II. Once you install your new carb, it won't matter at all.
Please listen to AB and keep your EGR system; it'll allow you to run more timing and give you better mileage.
One more thing- plastic vacuum line IS available at AutoZone, if you care to have it.
#18
Hey guys, I ordered that vacuum gauge. It should be here in by Tuesday =(... now I just need to find a hand held tachometer and I'll be set.
In the mean time, I decided to see if I could get to the bottom of that wiring clusterbomb in the engine compartment. I disconnected the big plug inside the cab from the computer and verified that I could still start the truck (more on that in a minute). The huge bundle runs all over the engine compartment and connects to pretty much every thing inside there. I went ahead and unplugged it all from the carburetor (it was plugged up in about 3-4 different areas) and I took some pictures here of the connections that I'm unsure of.
First on deck we have this beauty which runs to the electric choke. Fully 50% of this wire is bare copper. Awesome. One thought that I did have here was since this wire is all attached to the old harness, will I need to run a new wire for the electric choke?
Second on today's mystery guess that wire show, we have this gizmo. One of the wires that is spliced into the electric choke connection deal (you can see the two wires in the picture above) goes into this. The other two go back up into the bundle. It was not connected to anything at all, just laying there next to the battery.
Our third item is this wire here that starts off yellow, goes through some sort of a rubber.. something.. turns into a dark red wire and connects onto the starter solenoid here.
Our final mystery contestant is this guy right here. It connects into that cylindrical object there in the center of the picture.
What are these wires/connections? I'm assuming I can just unplug/remove all of them and I'll be fine. The one that concerns me though is the one to the elec choke. I'm thinking I'm going to have to run a new wire as there will be nothing to connect to when I pull out the harness.
Part Deux
I decided to fiddle a little with the distributor and see if I could get it idling smoother. I got the engine started and reached down and turned the distributor body counter clockwise a few degrees. I could hear the RPMs pick up and I decided to give it some gas and see if it still died. Guess what! It did not die when I gave it gas and then let off.. However, it made a very funny noise. When I gave it gas it sounded great, RPMs picked up and the engine sounded like a champ. However, when I let off the gas it made a very funny... almost whining noise as it was coming down in RPMs. This sounded unnatural and scared me a bit. I (very lightly) gave it a little more gas to see if I could reproduce and it made the same noise when coming down in RPMs again. Any ideas what that could be.
Also, the exhaust system under my truck is vibrating and is about to drive me CRAZY. It's not a constant vibration but it's regular. It comes and goes every few seconds and lasts for a few seconds at a time. Do you guys think it just needs to be tightened or could it be something else?
As usual, thanks a ton for all yall's help.
In the mean time, I decided to see if I could get to the bottom of that wiring clusterbomb in the engine compartment. I disconnected the big plug inside the cab from the computer and verified that I could still start the truck (more on that in a minute). The huge bundle runs all over the engine compartment and connects to pretty much every thing inside there. I went ahead and unplugged it all from the carburetor (it was plugged up in about 3-4 different areas) and I took some pictures here of the connections that I'm unsure of.
First on deck we have this beauty which runs to the electric choke. Fully 50% of this wire is bare copper. Awesome. One thought that I did have here was since this wire is all attached to the old harness, will I need to run a new wire for the electric choke?
Second on today's mystery guess that wire show, we have this gizmo. One of the wires that is spliced into the electric choke connection deal (you can see the two wires in the picture above) goes into this. The other two go back up into the bundle. It was not connected to anything at all, just laying there next to the battery.
Our third item is this wire here that starts off yellow, goes through some sort of a rubber.. something.. turns into a dark red wire and connects onto the starter solenoid here.
Our final mystery contestant is this guy right here. It connects into that cylindrical object there in the center of the picture.
What are these wires/connections? I'm assuming I can just unplug/remove all of them and I'll be fine. The one that concerns me though is the one to the elec choke. I'm thinking I'm going to have to run a new wire as there will be nothing to connect to when I pull out the harness.
Part Deux
I decided to fiddle a little with the distributor and see if I could get it idling smoother. I got the engine started and reached down and turned the distributor body counter clockwise a few degrees. I could hear the RPMs pick up and I decided to give it some gas and see if it still died. Guess what! It did not die when I gave it gas and then let off.. However, it made a very funny noise. When I gave it gas it sounded great, RPMs picked up and the engine sounded like a champ. However, when I let off the gas it made a very funny... almost whining noise as it was coming down in RPMs. This sounded unnatural and scared me a bit. I (very lightly) gave it a little more gas to see if I could reproduce and it made the same noise when coming down in RPMs again. Any ideas what that could be.
Also, the exhaust system under my truck is vibrating and is about to drive me CRAZY. It's not a constant vibration but it's regular. It comes and goes every few seconds and lasts for a few seconds at a time. Do you guys think it just needs to be tightened or could it be something else?
As usual, thanks a ton for all yall's help.
#19
In the mean time, I decided to see if I could get to the bottom of that wiring clusterbomb in the engine compartment. I disconnected the big plug inside the cab from the computer and verified that I could still start the truck (more on that in a minute). The huge bundle runs all over the engine compartment and connects to pretty much every thing inside there. I went ahead and unplugged it all from the carburetor (it was plugged up in about 3-4 different areas) and I took some pictures here of the connections that I'm unsure of.
First on deck we have this beauty which runs to the electric choke. Fully 50% of this wire is bare copper. Awesome. One thought that I did have here was since this wire is all attached to the old harness, will I need to run a new wire for the electric choke?
First on deck we have this beauty which runs to the electric choke. Fully 50% of this wire is bare copper. Awesome. One thought that I did have here was since this wire is all attached to the old harness, will I need to run a new wire for the electric choke?
Second on today's mystery guess that wire show, we have this gizmo. One of the wires that is spliced into the electric choke connection deal (you can see the two wires in the picture above) goes into this. The other two go back up into the bundle. It was not connected to anything at all, just laying there next to the battery.
Part Deux
I decided to fiddle a little with the distributor and see if I could get it idling smoother. I got the engine started and reached down and turned the distributor body counter clockwise a few degrees. I could hear the RPMs pick up and I decided to give it some gas and see if it still died. Guess what! It did not die when I gave it gas and then let off.. However, it made a very funny noise. When I gave it gas it sounded great, RPMs picked up and the engine sounded like a champ. However, when I let off the gas it made a very funny... almost whining noise as it was coming down in RPMs. This sounded unnatural and scared me a bit. I (very lightly) gave it a little more gas to see if I could reproduce and it made the same noise when coming down in RPMs again. Any ideas what that could be.
I decided to fiddle a little with the distributor and see if I could get it idling smoother. I got the engine started and reached down and turned the distributor body counter clockwise a few degrees. I could hear the RPMs pick up and I decided to give it some gas and see if it still died. Guess what! It did not die when I gave it gas and then let off.. However, it made a very funny noise. When I gave it gas it sounded great, RPMs picked up and the engine sounded like a champ. However, when I let off the gas it made a very funny... almost whining noise as it was coming down in RPMs. This sounded unnatural and scared me a bit. I (very lightly) gave it a little more gas to see if I could reproduce and it made the same noise when coming down in RPMs again. Any ideas what that could be.
Also, the exhaust system under my truck is vibrating and is about to drive me CRAZY. It's not a constant vibration but it's regular. It comes and goes every few seconds and lasts for a few seconds at a time. Do you guys think it just needs to be tightened or could it be something else?
As usual, thanks a ton for all yall's help.
As usual, thanks a ton for all yall's help.
#21
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Second on today's mystery guess that wire show, we have this gizmo. One of the wires that is spliced into the electric choke connection deal (you can see the two wires in the picture above) goes into this. The other two go back up into the bundle. It was not connected to anything at all, just laying there next to the battery.
What are these wires/connections? I'm assuming I can just unplug/remove all of them and I'll be fine. The one that concerns me though is the one to the elec choke. I'm thinking I'm going to have to run a new wire as there will be nothing to connect to when I pull out the harness.
Part Deux
I decided to fiddle a little with the distributor and see if I could get it idling smoother. I got the engine started and reached down and turned the distributor body counter clockwise a few degrees. I could hear the RPMs pick up and I decided to give it some gas and see if it still died. Guess what! It did not die when I gave it gas and then let off.. However, it made a very funny noise. When I gave it gas it sounded great, RPMs picked up and the engine sounded like a champ. However, when I let off the gas it made a very funny... almost whining noise as it was coming down in RPMs. This sounded unnatural and scared me a bit. I (very lightly) gave it a little more gas to see if I could reproduce and it made the same noise when coming down in RPMs again. Any ideas what that could be.
I decided to fiddle a little with the distributor and see if I could get it idling smoother. I got the engine started and reached down and turned the distributor body counter clockwise a few degrees. I could hear the RPMs pick up and I decided to give it some gas and see if it still died. Guess what! It did not die when I gave it gas and then let off.. However, it made a very funny noise. When I gave it gas it sounded great, RPMs picked up and the engine sounded like a champ. However, when I let off the gas it made a very funny... almost whining noise as it was coming down in RPMs. This sounded unnatural and scared me a bit. I (very lightly) gave it a little more gas to see if I could reproduce and it made the same noise when coming down in RPMs again. Any ideas what that could be.
Is the thermactor system still connected, (Air pump) lines to exaust manifold, catalytic converter etc, or is it in a state of removal? The whining could be the exaust backpressure going through a open line that is normally closed and connected to the air pump.
Also, the exhaust system under my truck is vibrating and is about to drive me CRAZY. It's not a constant vibration but it's regular. It comes and goes every few seconds and lasts for a few seconds at a time. Do you guys think it just needs to be tightened or could it be something else?
As usual, thanks a ton for all yall's help.
As usual, thanks a ton for all yall's help.
#22
If you don't mind I would be interested in that, definitely. I plan on keeping the EGR system in place as long as it's mostly intact and functional. I was very confused at first (and honestly I'm still not 100% sure) about what system was what and I thought that the EGR system and the feedback system were all the same thing. I realize now that it's a bit more modular than that so my goal is to keep the EGR system intact while removing all of the old feedback and TFI stuff.
The good thing about the EGR is that it's a standalone system and easy to incorporate into the new carb conversion, so it's easy to keep.
#23
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Parts International
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972-241-8730
Parts International
Has 33 of them
#24
<DT>Parts International Farmersbranch Ford <DD>FARMERS BRANCH, TX 75234
972-241-8730
Parts International
Has 33 of them
972-241-8730
Parts International
Has 33 of them
Here is a picture on the replacement plug used on a non-EEC truck to plug the hole in the firewall.
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#25
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#27
If you don't have the sticker, you'll need to go to the dealer and ask them to look it up, but the vac diagram for the feedback system is different from the previous models. I have a couple photos from junkyards I can send you if you'd like. I can even send you a pic from the original valance panel off my truck, which ought to be pretty close to what you have, except for the dizzy and carb change.
#28
If you don't have the sticker, you'll need to go to the dealer and ask them to look it up, but the vac diagram for the feedback system is different from the previous models. I have a couple photos from junkyards I can send you if you'd like. I can even send you a pic from the original valance panel off my truck, which ought to be pretty close to what you have, except for the dizzy and carb change.
Thank you VERY much!
David
#29
Bring the truck to your Ford dealer and see if they can help you.
The dealer is going to need the Calibration Code of the engine in order to determine this, and there were several (high altitude or not, California or 49-state emissions, air conditioning or not, what engine & trans, etc. etc. etc.).
The dealer is going to need the Calibration Code of the engine in order to determine this, and there were several (high altitude or not, California or 49-state emissions, air conditioning or not, what engine & trans, etc. etc. etc.).
#30
Here's a couple pics of the diagram for an 83. Since you are converting from the feedback carb and EEC dizzy, the vac diagram won't do you much good. Nevertheless, LMK if you want photos of it.
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I have others if you'd like them. I take a picture of every 300-6 sticker I find at junkyards.
Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
I have others if you'd like them. I take a picture of every 300-6 sticker I find at junkyards.