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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 05:14 AM
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Auto zone part #74857 $12.99
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by F-250 Super Duty
This was my results after the mod. Avg ambient temp 85-90 truck running/driving for 15 minutes and this is the temp on Max AC lowest fan speed setting.

That's cool... only problem is your evaporator will freeze in short order. Where you live the humidity may be low enough, but down here in the south, that temp would turn my evaporator into a 4" block of ice in less than five minutes.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by F-250 Super Duty
This was my results after the mod. Avg ambient temp 85-90 truck running/driving for 15 minutes and this is the temp on Max AC lowest fan speed setting.

what was the outside temperature when that picture was taken??
 
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Old Jun 24, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by empiretc
what was the outside temperature when that picture was taken??
I expect to see temperature difference in a working AC system after about 15 minutes of 18-25 degree between outlet and return air temperatures. Exact temperature is affected by outside ambient and humidity.

There is a little wiggle room here of a few degrees. I ran the same test in the picture using my Fluke meter in the same position on both my F150 and my F350 Powerstroke and got about 54 degrees at start-up dropping to about 42 - 44 degrees after an hour's run time. My temperature differences inlet to outlet were between 25 and 27 degrees on this dry high 80s day.

That's the pattern I see pretty much daily in my work.

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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I went and bought some gauges, called a couple local AC shops and they said with our current temperatures the low side should be 45-5psi5 and the high side should be near 215psi plus or minus but in the green.

Put on the gauges and I was up near 65 and the high was up near 315, so I brought it down to 55 and the high side hit 215.

I picked up all of the parts and the #74857 from Autozone, I was getting some bulbs and when I asked for the item the guy said 'This isn't for your truck' and the guy was reluctant to get it for me. I told him 'Trust me, I have instructions from the Internet.' I'll have to put it on once we're on vacation, no time before then which makes me sad because we'll be driving in 110 heat. Really really really appreciate the info and help.

Does it matter what line you put the control valve on? water in or water out?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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what was the outside temperature when that picture was taken??
i have the same exact temp gun and took readings at the same spot yesterday with the fan on high max cool and was getting -10f with outside temp in the 90's. today i took the readings and got 0f.

my condensor was replaced last year not sure what pressure its charged to? i also adjusted the air gap on the clutch and also took the blower motor out to clean the coils.

does that sound right? i have never had a freeze up problem
 
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bama29fan
i have the same exact temp gun and took readings at the same spot yesterday with the fan on high max cool and was getting -10f with outside temp in the 90's. today i took the readings and got 0f.

my condensor was replaced last year not sure what pressure its charged to? i also adjusted the air gap on the clutch and also took the blower motor out to clean the coils.

does that sound right? i have never had a freeze up problem
I am certainly not disputing your findings, but it is really strange. My trucks are cooling fine and my Fluke gives me reading nothing like these and I think I am taking my temps the same way. I would expect your truck to feel like a refrigerator with so low a supply side temperature. We both have high end equipment. What gives? In everything I work on a freeze control kicks the compressor off line when the coil gets to about 38 degrees. Anyone have any ideas?

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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by empiretc
what was the outside temperature when that picture was taken??
It was about 80-85 degrees out that morning and Humid with a capital H.

Although I should note that the temp gun used was a christmas gift and I don't know where it came from, but I can tell you I have to turn off the air alot because I'm too cold at times.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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Are these temps at idle? - The faster you go the more efficient the a/c system will be, outlet temps will get colder as the pressure in the system drops as more air is moved across the condenser. Run down the highway & see what your outlet temps are at 60 mph.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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Mine were taking going 35 MPH through town on my way to work.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitterbeard
I went and bought some gauges, called a couple local AC shops and they said with our current temperatures the low side should be 45-5psi5 and the high side should be near 215psi plus or minus but in the green.

Put on the gauges and I was up near 65 and the high was up near 315, so I brought it down to 55 and the high side hit 215.

I picked up all of the parts and the #74857 from Autozone, I was getting some bulbs and when I asked for the item the guy said 'This isn't for your truck' and the guy was reluctant to get it for me. I told him 'Trust me, I have instructions from the Internet.' I'll have to put it on once we're on vacation, no time before then which makes me sad because we'll be driving in 110 heat. Really really really appreciate the info and help.


Does it matter what line you put the control valve on? water in or water out?
It makes no difference which side inlet or outlet just use the one that matches the diameter hose nipple of the valve, as they are slightly different diameters going in and coming out. :<)
 
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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I am certainly not disputing your findings, but it is really strange. My trucks are cooling fine and my Fluke gives me reading nothing like these and I think I am taking my temps the same way. I would expect your truck to feel like a refrigerator with so low a supply side temperature. We both have high end equipment. What gives? In everything I work on a freeze control kicks the compressor off line when the coil gets to about 38 degrees. Anyone have any ideas?

Steve
there may be an issue with the temp gun. i think from it sitting in the truck it may have heated up outside of its normal (calibrated) operating range. i'll try to take some more measurements with the gun not baking in the truck beforehand
 
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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i have the same exact temp gun and took readings at the same spot yesterday with the fan on high max cool and was getting -10f with outside temp in the 90's. today i took the readings and got 0f.
there is NO way those temps are accurate. thought maybe it was 0 outside and that pic was posted for a laugh, lol....

f**d specs claim between 45-55 vent temp on our trucks (of course it will vary with ambient temps).

have seen the snap-on thermometer in the vent hit ~35 a time or two, but other than that, 100* outside and it will range from 40-58 depending on fan speed and if it is highway or stuck in traffic.

funny thing is, the temp will always read lower with the fan at the lowest setting.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by empiretc
there is NO way those temps are accurate. thought maybe it was 0 outside and that pic was posted for a laugh, lol....

f**d specs claim between 45-55 vent temp on our trucks (of course it will vary with ambient temps).

have seen the snap-on thermometer in the vent hit ~35 a time or two, but other than that, 100* outside and it will range from 40-58 depending on fan speed and if it is highway or stuck in traffic.

funny thing is, the temp will always read lower with the fan at the lowest setting.

yeah i didnt think it was right....the gun must be way off when its been sitting in 120*f truck. i have it in my office with me now and its reading normal temps again....ill see what it says on the way home and let yall no. last summer i had the instant read thermometer stuck in the vent and was seeing about 45 like you said.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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with the gun at the right operating temp it was reading in the low 40's upper 30's at ambient temps about 85.
 
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