Before anybody gives me any BS about it I know its ILLEGAL. But my buddy and his family owns a construction company and I work for them a good bit. Im always in the construction sites all day and said they would pay for fuel, however it is red dye. And I know for a fact I wont be using a tank a day so I can fill up with green.

What kind of harm does red dye do to the 6.0? also another buddy of mine who runs off road everyday says put a quart of used motor oil in the tank because no one can tell if its red or not. Is that safe to do?

 

Good luck on not getting any BS on this one.

 

i can only speak to the red dye as we use it in all our offroad equipment. we are assured of no ill effects by our fuel supplier, however its dyed because it does meet the same tax standards as regular fuel for street use. as with most things - you must decide if the benefit outweighs the risk.

 

The red dye won't harm the engine. Off road fuel these days is the same as highway fuel, except for the red dye, so the fuel won't harm the engine. The motor oil is not a good idea. It isn't going to obscure your use of dyed fuel in any way and your truck is designed to burn diesel, not motor oil.

Of course it's illegal and the fines are pretty steep, but you already know that.

 

what you should be concerned with is the filtration from their construction site. Sometimes you'll pump an excess of contaminants from these tanks anything from rust, stale fuel, and water.
I would highly suggest a more aggressive fuel filter maintenance as well as observing the service frequency of filters on their tank. Your injectors can't tolerate trash like their heavy equipment.

 

also be aware that some companies also still use a 500ppm dyed diesel in construction equipment. not sure if that my change your mind.

 

So, you'll fill up with red at the construction site, but once you get back on public roads you'll only have regular taxed fuel in your truck. Cool.

Don't tell anybody because there are lots of people pissed off about $4.00 gallon fuel and I'm sure they won't resent you getting free diesel let alone free $3.50 diesel.

Just to be clear, if I saw you putting red diesel in a road licensed truck, I'd call your stupid BS *** in and laugh as you and your stupid BS employer pay fines. Of course, your stupid BS employer will fire your stupid BS *** over this.

I say, do it!

P.S.: Your buddy who thinks inspectors can't tell the difference between used motor oil and red dye fuel is a moron.

 

Four points of interest here,

1) Check the actual sulfur content of the diesel they are being supplied. If its 500ppm, you're not going to want to run it. If its the 200ppm LSD or the 15ppm ULSD, you're fine.
2) Check their filtration requirements, the heavy equipment can handle the dirt and debris that the 6.0L injectors will not. And I agree with increasing the frequency of fuel filter replacements.
3) Do not put any used oil in your fuel system. For one thing, it's filled with debris. For another if it looks like you're masking dyed fuel, they'll just charge ya with the offense.
4) The dye that's put into that fuel, is very strong. It will linger in your system for quite a while, even if you refuel at the end of the day with regular fuel. For example, you fuel up with the "red" at the start of the day for say 19 gal of a 38 gal tank - dye's at 50% relative strength at this point. End of the day, you refuel with 19 gal of "green" - dye's at around 25% relative at this point and still quite noticeable. You'd have to run quite a few tanks to get all the 'red' out of your tank to the point the law couldn't slam you.

It's your truck, your risk, your choice.

 

Just to clarify a few things here.

ULSD is Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel and must be less than 15ppm. It is required in Ford trucks with 2008 and new diesel engines because of the Diesel Particulate Filter.

LSD is Low Sulfer Diesel and is less than 500ppm. The 6.0L diesel engine will run fine on LSD, as that is what it was designed for.

All the references I can find state that ALL diesel fuel sold in the US was required to be ULSD as of December 2010.

 

im on the railroad and fuel locomotives. The fuel we use says locomotive and marine diesel only 500ppm maximium. I see them runnin it in the equipment and things

 

Why do enjoy being laughed at? You understood that he would be running red at construction site and green on the road. Licensed has nothing to do w/ it. He his doing nothing illegal if he stays off the road. If you think other wise I'll video my stupid butt filling up my truck and let you call em on me. We'll see who gets a laugh out of it.
Your going to have to put a lot of motoroil in that fuel to blend it out. I'm not thinking this is a wise choice or practual. Don't try the "oh I put tranny fluid in it" either. You would have to put way to much in it to turn the green to red. Do as you said and you don't have a problem. This morning when I stopped to get fuel ithe truck was there actually filling up the off road tank. I asked him where he gets it from. He told me the same tank as the green. He said there is a line that's ran into the pipe that feeds the truck with a vslve and when your getting off road they open the valve to dye it. Just that simple.

 

I can verify that the information that Exile posted is correct. Having worked in the fuel terminal business for quite a few years as a driver I've hauled untold millions of gallons of diesel and #2 fuel oil. I also unloaded gasoline, 2 oil, and 6 oil from the ships. All of the 2 oil went into the same storage tanks period.

When the red dye BS began in the early '90's we had to fill a gallon jug with dye out of a 55 gallon drum and then climb on top of the trailer and dump it in the 7,500 gallon load of 2 oil to make it red. I hated that dye with a passion, when it got on you it was like ink from a ball point pen.

About the end of 1998 we got automatic dye injection that ended the jug routine. We used the same trailers for hauling 2 oil. When loading 2 oil for a station after hauling a load of dyed oil we had to flush the trailer by loading 20-30 gallons in and then draining it out in a five gallon bucket till it ran green. This wasn't too bad until dispatch assigned you alternating loads and you'd have to flush the trailer 4-5 times in a shift.

As far as using dyed fuel for on road...keep in mind that the dye leaves a stain that is hard to remove, especially if you happen to have any fuel leaks. These little stains can tip off an inspector to check you out more than normal.

Dorf

 

I asked the guy if he had separate trailers to haul green/red and he said naw. He said there's 18 gals you can get out with a gravity feed line. So there's 18 gals of green in there. There's no law that states green fuel can't be in the red tank. But even still if 18 gals of red fuel mixed in w/ 2000 gals of green noone would ever know. It would be blended out.
It wouldn't matter to me if they checked me closer just as long as I don't have red in my tank on the road. A leak stain doesn't suggest where the truck was when it was running red.

 

Not real sure about what your getting at. It don't take a lot to clear your tank out. I run the red all the time in the fields. I check my color often. But let's be realistic. I'm not going to burn 20 gals a day in the field. I put 5-10 in my tank. I go to the pump on E. Put 20 gals in my tank then I stick it. Never found any red to this day. One time I blended 5 gals to 25 gals and you could see it.

 

Ah, I see. Arrogance mixed with limited English skills = MORON.

Read carefully:

Muslecars90, in his own words, admits that he'll have some red dyed diesel in his tank at the end of a work day unless he runs it dry, screws his injectors, and pushes the truck to the nearest gas station.. Unless he lives and shops on the construction site, he will be driving on public roads with some red dye in his tank.

I pay my taxes and I resent bull**** high school jive artists like musclecars90 not paying his fair share because, ultimately, the tax will go up for the rest of us because he decides it's OK not to pay.

It's no different than the scum that boast about ripping off dealers for warranty claims (blowing the heads off their 6.0s and removing the tuner before towing the truck in). In case you haven't figured it out, I and everybody else paid more for their new trucks to cover warranty rip offs.

I don't care what you think about the morality of using red dye on the highway. I care about paying more because dirtbags cheat.

I suggest you visit the Comptroller of Maryland's website for more information including a report on busting a company for putting red dye in a vehicle that wound up on the highway. That's in addition to busting the driver.

I want to take up your wonderful offer. Kindly video yourself pumping red dye into your truck. Include clear shots of you face, your license plate and the fuel and fuel pump. Upload it to Youtube and post a link. I'll spend a few valuable moments of my time to make sure the right person sees it and someone comes out to dip your tank. I'm waiting......