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hi how does the steering column come off the gear box , i took the clamp off but it wont come out , its a 1959 ford
 
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I'm not sure what you're expecting. Have you removed the steering wheel? The steering shaft is part of the box. The outer column cover is all that will come off by removing the clamp. The long shaft will still be there. But you have to have the upper parts taken off first, and the under dash clamp loosened, too. It may be easier to disassemble on the bench, rather than in the truck. Again, I have to ask what it is exactly you're trying to accomplish?
 
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i doing a steering column swap on my truck , i see what you mean now i will take it all apart tomorrow , so do i need to get a different gear box to put the new steering column on
 
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Not unless you want to change the steering box to maybe a power one. You will need the fabricating skills to cut off the old steering shaft at the proper length and drill the shaft and steering joint for a bolt to secure it to the shaft. With a 32-33" long column (educated guess) and the column shaft in the u-joint on the steering box shaft, the steering column should end up pretty close to where you need it.
Start with measuring from the top of the steering box where the shaft come out, to the floor where the shaft goes in. This will help you figure out where to cut the shaft. Remove the stock steering box and shaft. Take it off the truck. Mock the new steering column inplace, just get it held in the postion you want it so you can check measurements and fit. Attach a steering u-joint to the steering column shaft and check the distance you have to the end of the u-joint against the measurement of the steering box position. You will want to leave 2" of stock shaft, at least, when you cut the shaft. This will give you room to drill the shaft and u-joint for a 1/4" grade 8 bolt and lock nut. Once the connection is made to the steering box, then fabricate what it takes to mount the steering column inplace. Wire in the turn signals, connect the shifter linkage, if needed, and your driving down the road again. In a shop equipped to do this kind of fabrication and someone with the knowledge, its about an 8 hour job.
 
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thanks that helps alot , i will go get the mesurements and start on it today , thank you for the info
 
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see what i am talking about.......
 
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What are you talking about joe black? You haven'y actually said anything yet.
 
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ya joe black, speak up, spit it out, come on......
 
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[quote=BBKtech2;10402050]You will need the fabricating skills to cut off the old steering shaft at the proper length and drill the shaft and steering joint for a bolt to secure it to the shaft.

Hi, BBKtech2, can you comment on what it takes to rebuild a stock steering box? I have a 56 f100 that needs it. The shop manual says nothing of cutting the column, but I have seen suppliers who rebuild steering boxes that want you to cut the column and send them the box. Any insight will be greatly appreciated - I need to determine if fixing the steering box is something my dad and I can do or if we need some outside help.

Thanks,
David
 
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One last try - can anyone tell me if rebuilding a stock steering box on a 56 f100 requires cutting the column? I would not think so based on the shop manual, but some parts houses that rebuild steering boxes tell you to cut the column in order to send in the core. As I said above, I am trying to determine what level of skill is required to rebuild the box, so that I know if it is something that my dad and I can do ourselves.

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David
 
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Cutting the steering shaft is just to make it smaller to ship. You can get a box rebuild kit and do it yourself, and leave the shaft uncut.
 
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Moderate mechanical skills are required. I rebuilt my 48 strng box. Instructions were useless that came with the parts, but it's pretty self explanatory. My F1 uses a gemmer 3 box and while your's is different, it should be similar.
 
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A little help please

I'm going to replace the rubber gasket for the steering column which lies below the metal cover plate on the inside of the cab on a 59 F100. Where do I break apart the column to accomplish this. Thanks in advance

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Not unless you want to change the steering box to maybe a power one. You will need the fabricating skills to cut off the old steering shaft at the proper length and drill the shaft and steering joint for a bolt to secure it to the shaft. With a 32-33" long column (educated guess) and the column shaft in the u-joint on the steering box shaft, the steering column should end up pretty close to where you need it.
Start with measuring from the top of the steering box where the shaft come out, to the floor where the shaft goes in. This will help you figure out where to cut the shaft. Remove the stock steering box and shaft. Take it off the truck. Mock the new steering column inplace, just get it held in the postion you want it so you can check measurements and fit. Attach a steering u-joint to the steering column shaft and check the distance you have to the end of the u-joint against the measurement of the steering box position. You will want to leave 2" of stock shaft, at least, when you cut the shaft. This will give you room to drill the shaft and u-joint for a 1/4" grade 8 bolt and lock nut. Once the connection is made to the steering box, then fabricate what it takes to mount the steering column inplace. Wire in the turn signals, connect the shifter linkage, if needed, and your driving down the road again. In a shop equipped to do this kind of fabrication and someone with the knowledge, its about an 8 hour job.
 
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Originally Posted by hawk1959
i doing a steering column swap on my truck , i see what you mean now i will take it all apart tomorrow , so do i need to get a different gear box to put the new steering column on
I'm going to replace the rubber gasket for the steering column which lies below the metal cover plate on the inside of the cab on a 59 F100. Where do I break apart the column to accomplish this. Thanks in advance
 
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