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Old May 26, 2011 | 06:16 PM
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Does this vin plate look correct for a 1959 F100. It is pop riveted to the chassis in the engine bay

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Old May 26, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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The correct location is in the dispatch,aka glove box.That one in your photo would not be original,are you sure the body hasn't been placed on a different frame?Perhaps re-stamped/re-VINed after having fallen out of your states' system?

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Old May 26, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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The history I'm getting....I'm buying this truck from a guy in Florida....is that it was owned by his grandpa and he inherited the truck. I expected a plate in the glove box with GWR, colour etc. I have seen the title and it matches that vin but that vin definitely looks home made and put on later. It had a 351 W put in in 1995...any clue?
 
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Old May 26, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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I would be inclined to proceed with caution,till you get your questions answered.I've never bought a vehicle that has been altered,and maybe I'm being paranoid,but you don't want to be out the money, and stuck with a vehicle you can't get titled/licensed in your state.Buyer beware.
 
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Old May 26, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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I'm in the UK and have paid half of the price already. I'm not sure if it will cause me problems over here when I try and register it. Would you have problems in the states if you tried to register it with a vin plate like that? L
 
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Old May 26, 2011 | 07:02 PM
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In my state,California,you likely would.Some other states are not as strict.Not sure how you payed the seller,but do you have any type of buyer protection in case he has sold you a newer truck chassis with an 59 body on it?
 
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Old May 26, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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I've just heard from the guy who's selling it and it seems his grandpa bought it from a show in 1984 as a restored repainted truck from Georgia. He then installed a new motor in 95 when the y block gave up. It's feasible that the restoration menat the vin plate in the glove box was lost or removed because they changed the colour and the vin stamped on that plate and fixed to the chassis.
 
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Old May 26, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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That is definitely not the VIN plate that would originally be in the dispatch box,the correct one would have much more information on it.Perhaps the original was lost, and the state of Florida issued that one as a replacement?Other members who have dealt with having vehicles re-titled,or otherwise had changes made will have to step up(hopefully),as I'm in unfamiliar territory.I don't want to unnecessarily worry you,it may be much ado about nothing.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by leewiffen
Does this vin plate look correct for a 1959 F100. It is pop riveted to the chassis in the engine bay

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Ach! This is not a VIN "plate." It's a "buck tag." No FoMoCo vehicle assembled in the US has a VIN "plate" on the firewall.

Buck tags can be found on firewalls, seats, sometimes on pickup beds. Buck tags usually have the VIN, other misc. 'garbled' codes stamped on it.

The codes on buck tags are used by assembly line workers only to assure the correct parts are installed on a vehicle to match its specific order.

1948/60: Rating Plate / 1961/80: Warranty Plate / 1981 to date: Certification Label.

1957/60: The "Rating Plate" is installed on the left front cab pillar (A pillar aka w/shield post, visible when the door is opened), or on the inside of the glove box door, depending on model.

1957/60 Rating Plate: 1st line: VIN // 2nd line, codes for the: W.B. (wheelbase) / Color / Model / Date / Trans / Axle // 3rd line: GVW / Cert. net HP / RPM / DSO

There is no such thing as a VIN "plate" for any vehicle of this vintage. Beginning in model year 1968 for all makes of Passenger Cars sold new in the US:

Mandated by the US Gov't, the VIN is stamped on a plate (commonly refered to as a "VIN tag") that is attached to the left (drivers) side corner of the dash, visible thru the windshield.

Trucks sold new in the US were not required to have this until the 1980's.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 02:40 AM
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Bill....you've made me feel a hell of a lot happier. See us limeys especially us green limeys can get awful worried when we are a long way off from the bit of metal we are shipping !!

Apparently there is no rating plate on this truck. Is that unusual or do they get lost, damaged, removed when the body is restored ?

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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by leewiffen
Bill....you've made me feel a hell of a lot happier. See us limeys especially us green limeys can get awful worried when we are a long way off from the bit of metal we are shipping !!

Apparently there is no rating plate on this truck. Is that unusual or do they get lost, damaged, removed when the body is restored ?

lee
It should be there, but what sometimes happens is, people remove it when they repaint, forget to re-install, or misplace it.

"She, who must be obeyed" and I have vacationed in the UK twice (1999/2002). In 2002, we clueless Americans were unaware, but lucked out, cuz we were in London when the Queen's 50th anniversary celebration occurred.

The "She" comment (taken from Rumpole of the Bailey) is apropos for my wife.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:59 AM
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" Perfect my dear Rumple....apropos absolutely nothing "
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 04:11 AM
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Blimey! Limey was originally was a slang term for British sailors that ate limes to prevent scurvy on long voyages.

Bloody good name, IMO.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 04:47 AM
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Thanks Bill....I'll have to be careful.....I'm in an area I know little about, Her majesty and Rumpole !!
 
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