Head Gasket Question
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No they are the factory heads, no work done, it blew a head gasket so i changed it. I just didnt know if the gaskets were diff between the ho and non ho and maybe i had the wrong ones, but theyre the same.
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What year motor is the 5.0? I did a search for head gasket kit and I came up with 2 different stock part #'s for Felpro, Then on the other hand, I came up the same part #'s for Mr. Gasket. Fel-Pro was for a '92 and then an '88. Mr. Gasket was the same for both years. Mr. Gasket was just for sealing the heads (it appears) and did not include anything else for the heads ups.
You may want PM one of these users for some more in-depth help. SubFord, RLA2005, Nstueve, Conanski, Lew, 6CylinderBill, Lazy K, WhiteMax, Deeznuts
If you applied sealant to all the head cylinder water jacket bolts, Im lost why it would leak out that hole.
You may want PM one of these users for some more in-depth help. SubFord, RLA2005, Nstueve, Conanski, Lew, 6CylinderBill, Lazy K, WhiteMax, Deeznuts
If you applied sealant to all the head cylinder water jacket bolts, Im lost why it would leak out that hole.
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Also did you compare the OEM ones that were damaged with the new ones before installation?
EDIT: I feel the best route is to look over the original gasket set and compare to the same Part # set you installed OR pull the pass. head and verify you got the right one with the set...I know it may sound absurd to get the wrong "1" side and the other one right, but just think about the rear gas tanks on Ford Pinto's...It may have been a simple QA fail on the assembly line for packaging. But it also could be something to do with the rear of the block.
I don't know what caused the original head gsaket to fail, if it over heated, froze or just finallay failed..Either way, these are just ideas.
Hope this helps, and I hope someone will chime in with additional help. If you are up to it, you may want to PM one of the members I mentioned earlier.
EDIT: I removed the beginning paragraph after double checking the "2" different head gasket sets. They were the same but so smal I couldn't make it out till I enlarged it with magnifying glass I hate to mislead any member who is here for the same reason I am, to learn.
EDIT: I feel the best route is to look over the original gasket set and compare to the same Part # set you installed OR pull the pass. head and verify you got the right one with the set...I know it may sound absurd to get the wrong "1" side and the other one right, but just think about the rear gas tanks on Ford Pinto's...It may have been a simple QA fail on the assembly line for packaging. But it also could be something to do with the rear of the block.
I don't know what caused the original head gsaket to fail, if it over heated, froze or just finallay failed..Either way, these are just ideas.
Hope this helps, and I hope someone will chime in with additional help. If you are up to it, you may want to PM one of the members I mentioned earlier.
EDIT: I removed the beginning paragraph after double checking the "2" different head gasket sets. They were the same but so smal I couldn't make it out till I enlarged it with magnifying glass I hate to mislead any member who is here for the same reason I am, to learn.
Last edited by timbersteel; May 4, 2011 at 03:49 AM. Reason: Removed beginning paragraph/Mislead user on noticing different ports on the rear of 2 different head gasket sets.
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My motor is a 94 5.0. The gaskets are all seated correctly and no water is coming from around the gasket, just out that hole. And to the best i could tell they were the same as the old ones. The gasket failed because the motor has over 270,000 miles on it (in the swap i took the computer to the matching truck so my odometer will be correct to that motor) when i pulled heads i saw no evidence that it had ever been apart either. And i was never really easy on it. Im 19 and i have an f150 thats beat mustangs off the line... Of course ive never been easy on it haha.
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did you pressurize the radiator ? that will tell you wear the leak is ! some have leaked out the front timing cover and looked to be coming from the rear ! or could the block be cracked and leaking ?
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It leaks when its not under pressure, just runs out as you pour water into the radiator, so that throws and pressure issues out the window. Also, i can SEE the hole its coming from, its not coming from the front.
Yes i laid them correctly, and as i said earlier i tried every possible way they could go as they were not marked "front". The first time i looked it up online and laid them correctly, but later flipped them in every different way. It does the same thing every way so again, throws placement of the head gasket out the window. And yes all of the bushings are in place.
Yes i laid them correctly, and as i said earlier i tried every possible way they could go as they were not marked "front". The first time i looked it up online and laid them correctly, but later flipped them in every different way. It does the same thing every way so again, throws placement of the head gasket out the window. And yes all of the bushings are in place.
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Just another idea..
Is this with the heads torqued down? There were "2" different torquing procedures used, depending on the year of the heads that you have on there. This could make a difference, perhaps.
All I can think of now..
Is this with the heads torqued down? There were "2" different torquing procedures used, depending on the year of the heads that you have on there. This could make a difference, perhaps.
All I can think of now..
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If the link works, thats the best pic i can find. Look at the rear flange, starting from the top work your way down, on the right side there is a hole. Bout 1/4 of the way down. This hole goes into the block and to the bellhousing.
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Yeah im not doing that. As i stated before, i refuse to believe that sealing the hole is the solution. If there was nothing in the hole before and it didnt leak, why is it leaking now!? In changing the head gasket, i never took anything out of that hole. So if it was just fine before this fiasco then there must be a reason for it. Plugging the hole for the solution is like buying another truck because you lost a bolt on your old one and want to fix it. What really drives me mad, is that hole doesnt go anywbere but the bellhousing correct? (if he didnt have the plate on there you would be able to see that) So if water is coming from a hole in the top of the bellhousing, that would lead a person to believe that the bellhousing is filling up with water correct? So if i pull the flywheel cover off, exposing the bottom of the transmission, why is the water still coming from that hole and not out the bottom???
