Volare issue help me decide
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Volare issue help me decide
Hello gang I need input with this:
1-My current frame is chopped up bad and the volare was installed too low making the crossmember the first thing to hit the ground on a flat tire or if i loose the torsion bars to go lower.
2-I have a complete frame that im cleaning to start new.
3-I noticed that the volare was installed that low because otherwise the cab has to be channeled for the tranny and might even have to do that on the firewall to fit the engine.
4-I could keep this frame and redo the notch in the rear and keep everything as is.To get lower stance and safe ride i would torsion the bars to where i can know i will be safe in case of a flat tire and then add a few inches on every fender,runningboard, and valance(Kind of a lowering kit exept in sheet metal.
I am estimatin git would be the same amount of work to do the new frame than fix my frame and rework the panels.
I am not contemplating another ifs.
Thanks.
1-My current frame is chopped up bad and the volare was installed too low making the crossmember the first thing to hit the ground on a flat tire or if i loose the torsion bars to go lower.
2-I have a complete frame that im cleaning to start new.
3-I noticed that the volare was installed that low because otherwise the cab has to be channeled for the tranny and might even have to do that on the firewall to fit the engine.
4-I could keep this frame and redo the notch in the rear and keep everything as is.To get lower stance and safe ride i would torsion the bars to where i can know i will be safe in case of a flat tire and then add a few inches on every fender,runningboard, and valance(Kind of a lowering kit exept in sheet metal.
I am estimatin git would be the same amount of work to do the new frame than fix my frame and rework the panels.
I am not contemplating another ifs.
Thanks.
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From: Pflugerville, tx
Hello gang I need input with this:
1-My current frame is chopped up bad and the volare was installed too low making the crossmember the first thing to hit the ground on a flat tire or if i loose the torsion bars to go lower.
2-I have a complete frame that im cleaning to start new.
3-I noticed that the volare was installed that low because otherwise the cab has to be channeled for the tranny and might even have to do that on the firewall to fit the engine.
4-I could keep this frame and redo the notch in the rear and keep everything as is.To get lower stance and safe ride i would torsion the bars to where i can know i will be safe in case of a flat tire and then add a few inches on every fender,runningboard, and valance(Kind of a lowering kit exept in sheet metal.
I am estimating it would be the same amount of work to do the new frame than fix my frame and rework the panels.
I am not contemplating another ifs.
Thanks.
1-My current frame is chopped up bad and the volare was installed too low making the crossmember the first thing to hit the ground on a flat tire or if i loose the torsion bars to go lower.
2-I have a complete frame that im cleaning to start new.
3-I noticed that the volare was installed that low because otherwise the cab has to be channeled for the tranny and might even have to do that on the firewall to fit the engine.
4-I could keep this frame and redo the notch in the rear and keep everything as is.To get lower stance and safe ride i would torsion the bars to where i can know i will be safe in case of a flat tire and then add a few inches on every fender,runningboard, and valance(Kind of a lowering kit exept in sheet metal.
I am estimating it would be the same amount of work to do the new frame than fix my frame and rework the panels.
I am not contemplating another ifs.
Thanks.
the volare is thicker, top to bottom, than the chassis rail, and on my 55 and any other effie I've seen, the front frame doesn't bend, so there really isn't any way to keep the cross member from hitting first if the torsion bars are set soft.
you cannot get a 'safe ride' from a volare set too soft. period. they are not a good choice for always lowered vehicles. About the only thing you can do is use the dropped spindles (2 inches) and tighten the torsion bars for safe ride and then extend the body to LOOK lower as you mention..
Sam
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In an other thread I started we decided that the PO didnt install the volare correctly.
He installed it too low,the torsion bars and crossmembers are the first thing that hit.
I was wandering about the spindles too,I was going to ask if that would fix my problem.
If I show you a picture will you tell me if you think it would fix it????
thanks
Seth
He installed it too low,the torsion bars and crossmembers are the first thing that hit.
I was wandering about the spindles too,I was going to ask if that would fix my problem.
If I show you a picture will you tell me if you think it would fix it????
thanks
Seth
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From: Pflugerville, tx
In an other thread I started we decided that the PO didnt install the volare correctly.
He installed it too low,the torsion bars and crossmembers are the first thing that hit.
I was wandering about the spindles too,I was going to ask if that would fix my problem.
If I show you a picture will you tell me if you think it would fix it????
thanks
Seth
He installed it too low,the torsion bars and crossmembers are the first thing that hit.
I was wandering about the spindles too,I was going to ask if that would fix my problem.
If I show you a picture will you tell me if you think it would fix it????
thanks
Seth
a volare has a set dimension, you can only do a little to mess it up.. on my red truck the PO had it installed UNDER the chassis, not up IN the chassis as required. but that doesn't change the angles between the spindles and the crossmember. thay are what chrysler designed.
looking over my volare setup, I found that the alignment info I had was wrong.. I found this article with a good description and it makes a difference..
net, from the ground to the lower control arm inner bushing is supposed to be about 10 inches. then you adjust the caster/camber.. I would say yours is adjusted WAY too soft
here is that page of info.. note the little image in the upper right on where to measure to.
Sam
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From: Pflugerville, tx
this pic says the torsion bars are too loose.
if I look back over the prior measurements, only ONE (d) is related to the install, all the rest are adjustment
a: floor to low point center of volare 5-13/16
b: floor to driver side knuckle bottom edge 7-3/4
c: floor to bottom of torsion bar at drivers side knuckle 8-3/4
d: floor to bottom of chassis in front of volare 10-5/8
the relationship between d and c is the install. Mine is about 2 inches, yours looks like around 4 (if the chassis rail height is 4 inches at the front cowl) (on my red truck this was almost 6 inches)
sam
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