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Like I said just poor planning on their part. Probably because the big wigs in charge dont even know the difference between gas and diesel (although with how quiet the new engines are sometimes I don't either LOL)
You know, just how unhappy is Ford over warranty work. The parts are bought at cost and charged at retail, the floor space is already there and unless the shop is really busy it's just vacant space. They limit the hours paid the tech and they are paying him salary and charging the full labor rate. Then they write the whole thing off at full price. So, as long as they are making money it doesn't sound like a bad write off. Not as good as a meeting in hawaii in January, but not that bad either. What am I missing???
Must admit, I did not buy this truck at this dealer, really shouldn't matter, the big street sign says Ford. But they have been trying to resolve the issue...But he did say after, that no one wants to work on them....
Only have 52,000 on the clock, , I might have to trade or sell a little early...a lot of dollars, to come out of someone pocket for there mistakes...if your over the warranty. If it wasn't for noise, my 7.3 was mint.
Must admit, I did not buy this truck at this dealer, really shouldn't matter, the big street sign says Ford. But they have been trying to resolve the issue...But he did say after, that no one wants to work on them....
Only have 52,000 on the clock, , I might have to trade or sell a little early...a lot of dollars, to come out of someone pocket for there mistakes...if your over the warranty. If it wasn't for noise, my 7.3 was mint.
Yeah, I've heard that the dealers say no one wants to work on them. Not been my experience though, I bought mine used and still get great service here and on the road. I always try to find a dealer that has a separate Truck lot. That way I feel comfortable that they sell a lot of trucks and thus have good diesel techs. So far with 10 years of diesel use I've gotten great results.
On the flip side I took my daily driver (Pontiac G6) to a GM dealer yesterday and despite the fact I didnt buy the car from them, and despite that the extended warranty I bought was not GM's, I received absolutely OUTSTANDING service and everything was fixed in 1 visit. Makes me wonder if I would get the same service on a new Duramax????
This is a dealer issue, and has very little do to with Ford. You are comparing a lousy Ford service department with a great GM service department.
Obviously this correlates to the fact that if you have a Silverado and bring it to the already known excellent service department you will have another great service experience. But if you take your Ford to a great dealer, you will still receive outstanding service.
You appear pretty unsatisfied with your truck, and I'd be frustrated if I were in your shoes too. But remember that NOBODY right now has a flawless diesel engine. Ford is about the best out there right now though...
Got a call today from the dealer, cab is off and there doing the repair. Told me I have a leak on my master cylinder and that is not covered under warranty...makes me wonder talking the cab off things happen. Told him I would come by on Monday, I want to see myself..never ends...$560 parts and labor...I asked if they were changing the DPF and he said yes...Not that I care he mentioned $7,800 in parts so far...In the end everyone pays....New Truck will cost more to purchase..
This is a dealer issue, and has very little do to with Ford. You are comparing a lousy Ford service department with a great GM service department.
Obviously this correlates to the fact that if you have a Silverado and bring it to the already known excellent service department you will have another great service experience. But if you take your Ford to a great dealer, you will still receive outstanding service.
You appear pretty unsatisfied with your truck, and I'd be frustrated if I were in your shoes too. But remember that NOBODY right now has a flawless diesel engine. Ford is about the best out there right now though...
I agree Crazy. Its the level of service being provided that bothers me and in my case it is the dealer but there are also some war stories on these forums about Ford denying repairs (remember the huge thread where they found ice in the cylinders) so I think the reason the dealers are not providing good service is because of the pushback from Ford. I have tried all 3 dealers in my area (1 went out of business so lets just call it 2). When I can get the wife to pack up all our kids and follow me to the next dealer 30 miles from here I will try yet another dealer. I love Ford, I have blue blood in my veins, and have never owned a non Ford truck in my life. But if they cant fix their product, or it costs $10k to fix, its time to look at a gasser or a Brand X. Believe me, its not option A
Got a call today from the dealer, cab is off and there doing the repair. Told me I have a leak on my master cylinder and that is not covered under warranty...makes me wonder talking the cab off things happen. Told him I would come by on Monday, I want to see myself..never ends...$560 parts and labor...I asked if they were changing the DPF and he said yes...Not that I care he mentioned $7,800 in parts so far...In the end everyone pays....New Truck will cost more to purchase..
Have a nice Easter...
Very glad to hear they are fixing your truck, including the DPF as Senix suggested. As for your MC, see what the cost is for the part. Seems you wouldnt have to pay the full labor charge since they have the truck partially apart already for another repair. Did you ever notice a problem with your brakes before?
Brakes were fine, Quote from service Manager " Mechanic said he got a drop of oil on him " No lie....unit is leaking
This has been going on for some time, and a waste of my time as well..hopefully its fixed this time...but for how long...
Only thing that has me pissed, all the times to the dealer and no codes...BS
Good friend is lending me his extra "gas": pickup other wise I would be livid...
This has been going on for some time, and a waste of my time as well..hopefully its fixed this time...but for how long...
Only thing that has me pissed, all the times to the dealer and no codes...BS
LOL, I have been whining about the same exact problem. No matter what I say they just look at me and say "but there are no codes". Well lesson learned here is that if you plan to keep the truck, make sure you have a warranty to cover it because this would be a whole lot worse if you had to pony up the cash on your own.
Your so right its scary...You buy the diesel for longevity..with this design not many will last...I hope they one day get it right it once was..
Hate to say it, but the notion that diesels would always last longer went away in the mid -90s. Not so much that diesels got worse but because of how much better gassers have gotten.
The Modular gas V8s have been known to easily hit 300,000 miles with reasonable maintenance. Diesels have gotten more complex. The real advantage is the ease of towing with the huge increase of torque. But we pay for that...
Diesels today are unecessarily complicated and will most likely not last as long as they did in the old days. Like Crazy said the only advantage nowadays is having more towing power. I think sales will slowly start to decline over the next few years due to the rediculous MSRPs, people's disgust with emissions equipment, and the ever increasing cost of maintenance on these things. For example, the main cable tv provider in my area has always used Fords. They had a ton of 7.3's, 6.0's, and 6.4's, but any of the 2011's they have now are all gassers.
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