Need some advise.
#1
Need some advise.
Hello, I am new to this site and need some advise. A little about me, I am looking to buy a F250-F350 6.7 diesel lariat cc/sb. I live on long island in NY. I have owned a ford my whole life. I pull a 8600lb camper and looking to move into a 5th wheel, so I am looking to upgrade my truck. This will be my first diesel motor. I have been reading most of the forums on this site and have some questions.
1) looking for MPG's. Hwy/town - towing? I plan on keeping it stock. I have read several of the forums, and the mpg's are very different.
2) Is there alot of maintenance on a diesel? If so, things I should know.
3) I am reading about a FLASH? Not sure I understand this.
4) Rapid heat option - is this option needed? Do diesels take that long to heat up.
5) 20 inch wheels - how much towing weight will I lose? I have searched and can't find a answer.
6) Any incentives that I should bring to the dealers attention?
Any help will be greatly appreciated, as I am going shopping next week. I can't lie, I am a little nervous about the diesel. But from what I have read, seems most people on this site are happy with their trucks. The whole "new motor" thing people keep telling me to watch out for, has me a little on the fence. Thanks again, Mike
1) looking for MPG's. Hwy/town - towing? I plan on keeping it stock. I have read several of the forums, and the mpg's are very different.
2) Is there alot of maintenance on a diesel? If so, things I should know.
3) I am reading about a FLASH? Not sure I understand this.
4) Rapid heat option - is this option needed? Do diesels take that long to heat up.
5) 20 inch wheels - how much towing weight will I lose? I have searched and can't find a answer.
6) Any incentives that I should bring to the dealers attention?
Any help will be greatly appreciated, as I am going shopping next week. I can't lie, I am a little nervous about the diesel. But from what I have read, seems most people on this site are happy with their trucks. The whole "new motor" thing people keep telling me to watch out for, has me a little on the fence. Thanks again, Mike
#2
I have had my truck now for almost 2 months. I also have a travel trailer that weighs about 9000 lbs. I hqve to keep checking my mirrors to make sure it's still behind me. You will love the power the new engine has.
As for maint. Yes it is slightly more to maintain than a gasser. Oil changes cost more and you need to change fuel filters every 10k miles.
This engine has been out now for about a year. Very few problems have been reported with the engine. Most of the problems that have been reported are minor. You have a 5yr/100k warranty on the engine.
Hope this helps, good luck in your search.
Dave
As for maint. Yes it is slightly more to maintain than a gasser. Oil changes cost more and you need to change fuel filters every 10k miles.
This engine has been out now for about a year. Very few problems have been reported with the engine. Most of the problems that have been reported are minor. You have a 5yr/100k warranty on the engine.
Hope this helps, good luck in your search.
Dave
#3
Absolutely get this option! I've have heard of so many people who didn't get the option and wished they did. At only $250 at time of order it's well worth the price. Word on the street is that it cost $3000 to add it after the fact. And yes, diesels do take long to heat up.
#4
I'll take a shot at a few of your questions, but I'd strongly encourage you to search for answers to your questions as they all have been answered many times here.
Hello, I am new to this site and need some advise. A little about me, I am looking to buy a F250-F350 6.7 diesel lariat cc/sb. I live on long island in NY. I have owned a ford my whole life. I pull a 8600lb camper and looking to move into a 5th wheel, so I am looking to upgrade my truck. This will be my first diesel motor. I have been reading most of the forums on this site and have some questions.
1) looking for MPG's. Hwy/town - towing? I plan on keeping it stock. I have read several of the forums, and the mpg's are very different.
I think realistic numbers are 14 city and 18 highway. Some will do better, some will do worse. The driver has a lot to do with this.
2) Is there alot of maintenance on a diesel? If so, things I should know.
More than a gas engine as far as cost goes (more oil per change, etc), but not necessarily more frequency.
3) I am reading about a FLASH? Not sure I understand this.
Flash is when the truck's computer is reprogrammed or flashed with new software.
4) Rapid heat option - is this option needed? Do diesels take that long to heat up.
I went back and forth on this myself living in upstate, NY. A salesman started 2 trucks for me on a 15 degree day and the one without supplemental heat took over 10 minutes to begin blowing warm air while the supplemental heat truck was producing 70 degree air immediately. For the $200 or so I decided it was worth the cost.
5) 20 inch wheels - how much towing weight will I lose? I have searched and can't find a answer.
None...choose the wheels you like. Some option packages will exclude the 20" wheels (camper package, etc)
6) Any incentives that I should bring to the dealers attention?
They'll know all of them. Start requesting brochures from the MyFord site and you may receive a $750 private cash coupon that you can use to lower the cost.
Any help will be greatly appreciated, as I am going shopping next week. I can't lie, I am a little nervous about the diesel. But from what I have read, seems most people on this site are happy with their trucks. The whole "new motor" thing people keep telling me to watch out for, has me a little on the fence. Thanks again, Mike
1) looking for MPG's. Hwy/town - towing? I plan on keeping it stock. I have read several of the forums, and the mpg's are very different.
I think realistic numbers are 14 city and 18 highway. Some will do better, some will do worse. The driver has a lot to do with this.
2) Is there alot of maintenance on a diesel? If so, things I should know.
More than a gas engine as far as cost goes (more oil per change, etc), but not necessarily more frequency.
3) I am reading about a FLASH? Not sure I understand this.
Flash is when the truck's computer is reprogrammed or flashed with new software.
4) Rapid heat option - is this option needed? Do diesels take that long to heat up.
I went back and forth on this myself living in upstate, NY. A salesman started 2 trucks for me on a 15 degree day and the one without supplemental heat took over 10 minutes to begin blowing warm air while the supplemental heat truck was producing 70 degree air immediately. For the $200 or so I decided it was worth the cost.
5) 20 inch wheels - how much towing weight will I lose? I have searched and can't find a answer.
None...choose the wheels you like. Some option packages will exclude the 20" wheels (camper package, etc)
6) Any incentives that I should bring to the dealers attention?
They'll know all of them. Start requesting brochures from the MyFord site and you may receive a $750 private cash coupon that you can use to lower the cost.
Any help will be greatly appreciated, as I am going shopping next week. I can't lie, I am a little nervous about the diesel. But from what I have read, seems most people on this site are happy with their trucks. The whole "new motor" thing people keep telling me to watch out for, has me a little on the fence. Thanks again, Mike
#5
Hello, I am new to this site and need some advise. A little about me, I am looking to buy a F250-F350 6.7 diesel lariat cc/sb. I live on long island in NY. I have owned a ford my whole life. I pull a 8600lb camper and looking to move into a 5th wheel, so I am looking to upgrade my truck. This will be my first diesel motor. I have been reading most of the forums on this site and have some questions.
1) looking for MPG's. Hwy/town - towing? I plan on keeping it stock. I have read several of the forums, and the mpg's are very different.
2) Is there alot of maintenance on a diesel? If so, things I should know.
3) I am reading about a FLASH? Not sure I understand this.
4) Rapid heat option - is this option needed? Do diesels take that long to heat up.
5) 20 inch wheels - how much towing weight will I lose? I have searched and can't find a answer.
6) Any incentives that I should bring to the dealers attention?
Any help will be greatly appreciated, as I am going shopping next week. I can't lie, I am a little nervous about the diesel. But from what I have read, seems most people on this site are happy with their trucks. The whole "new motor" thing people keep telling me to watch out for, has me a little on the fence. Thanks again, Mike
1) looking for MPG's. Hwy/town - towing? I plan on keeping it stock. I have read several of the forums, and the mpg's are very different.
2) Is there alot of maintenance on a diesel? If so, things I should know.
3) I am reading about a FLASH? Not sure I understand this.
4) Rapid heat option - is this option needed? Do diesels take that long to heat up.
5) 20 inch wheels - how much towing weight will I lose? I have searched and can't find a answer.
6) Any incentives that I should bring to the dealers attention?
Any help will be greatly appreciated, as I am going shopping next week. I can't lie, I am a little nervous about the diesel. But from what I have read, seems most people on this site are happy with their trucks. The whole "new motor" thing people keep telling me to watch out for, has me a little on the fence. Thanks again, Mike
#6
Let me add a little more...
I am getting 16.5 mpg in town, about 12 towing my TT.
I also have the 20" wheels. If you get the 20's, the only axle ratio you can get is 3.55. This combo works very well towing. I think my tow cap is close to 13k conventional and 14k fifth wheel.
I have the rapid heat option as well. I'm in NC so it won't be used very often. Up in NY, I would def have it. It does work to take the chill out until the engine warms up.
I am getting 16.5 mpg in town, about 12 towing my TT.
I also have the 20" wheels. If you get the 20's, the only axle ratio you can get is 3.55. This combo works very well towing. I think my tow cap is close to 13k conventional and 14k fifth wheel.
I have the rapid heat option as well. I'm in NC so it won't be used very often. Up in NY, I would def have it. It does work to take the chill out until the engine warms up.
#7
Absolutely get this option! I've have heard of so many people who didn't get the option and wished they did. At only $250 at time of order it's well worth the price. Word on the street is that it cost $3000 to add it after the fact. And yes, diesels do take long to heat up.
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#9
Towing MPG can drop to 10 if the winds are fighting you (10MPH headwind) but I average 12. Empty, you can achieve 18 or higher if you work at it.
Don't sweat towing capacity, any crew cab 4X4 will handle whatever you throw at it with ease if you get the diesel. If the fifth wheel you want weighs more than 12K you should go with the F350, maybe even with dual rear wheels. I'd say anything under 12K would be fine with single rear wheels. The 20" wheel vs. the 18" is a tough one. I have 20"'s and like them, they perform well but I would bet that 18's are a little smoother on the road. Performance wise, no issue.
I tow a variety of trailer on a regular basis for business. Two 16' box trailers, one 18' box trailer, one 36' fifth wheel cargo trailer, a dump trailer, and an open 16' flatbed. Personally, I have a 36' fifth wheel camper (I just got it so I don't have pics yet) also. I have 42K on my truck so far, and the thing is just as capable and solid as all the older SD models. Ford still makes a great SD truck and the new diesel motor is outstanding.
And, oil change intervals according to the engine computer. I generally get a little over 9K miles on an oil change. Fuel filters I run to about 15-20K. I used to change the oil on a gas engine every 5K miles. So you can figure best case scenario, that you'll get a 2:1 ratio on oil changes vs. gas and this makes the additional cost a lot more bearable.
Don't sweat towing capacity, any crew cab 4X4 will handle whatever you throw at it with ease if you get the diesel. If the fifth wheel you want weighs more than 12K you should go with the F350, maybe even with dual rear wheels. I'd say anything under 12K would be fine with single rear wheels. The 20" wheel vs. the 18" is a tough one. I have 20"'s and like them, they perform well but I would bet that 18's are a little smoother on the road. Performance wise, no issue.
I tow a variety of trailer on a regular basis for business. Two 16' box trailers, one 18' box trailer, one 36' fifth wheel cargo trailer, a dump trailer, and an open 16' flatbed. Personally, I have a 36' fifth wheel camper (I just got it so I don't have pics yet) also. I have 42K on my truck so far, and the thing is just as capable and solid as all the older SD models. Ford still makes a great SD truck and the new diesel motor is outstanding.
And, oil change intervals according to the engine computer. I generally get a little over 9K miles on an oil change. Fuel filters I run to about 15-20K. I used to change the oil on a gas engine every 5K miles. So you can figure best case scenario, that you'll get a 2:1 ratio on oil changes vs. gas and this makes the additional cost a lot more bearable.
Last edited by ruschejj; 04-13-2011 at 06:26 AM. Reason: oil
#10
For what its worth to the OP NYFD 30 I would not buy it until Ford has fixed the many issues with drive ability, CEL, computer issues. I wish I knew before i purchased I would have held off. That was my fault for not looking for the negatives. Love the truck but way too many computer problems.
#11
Thanks for all the great info. I called ford cs today, hope the $750 comes with the brochure. Going to my dealer Tuesday.
Flaharleyguy - thanks, but it looks like their is more people happy with the trucks than not. I will take a chance - want to do some camping in upstate NY, so need the truck to pull the camper up the mountians.
Flaharleyguy - thanks, but it looks like their is more people happy with the trucks than not. I will take a chance - want to do some camping in upstate NY, so need the truck to pull the camper up the mountians.
#12
Thanks for all the great info. I called ford cs today, hope the $750 comes with the brochure. Going to my dealer Tuesday.
Flaharleyguy - thanks, but it looks like their is more people happy with the trucks than not. I will take a chance - want to do some camping in upstate NY, so need the truck to pull the camper up the mountians.
Flaharleyguy - thanks, but it looks like their is more people happy with the trucks than not. I will take a chance - want to do some camping in upstate NY, so need the truck to pull the camper up the mountians.
#14
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I'm in NY and there are some great camping opportunities here and in PA. It's great when you open up your horizons with the right truck!
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