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are dual fuel tanks still available on the 2003 f-150's? I enjoy them on the 1994 I have, besides the cross flow problem. I was wondering if they are still around or have went the way of the dodo (I think GMC retired the idea on their trucks).
Matt
ps. - does anyone own a Compressed natural gas, dual fuel, or lp powered truck? I was looking at the ford website at the different setups they had and wondered what an owner though about them (Most of the alternative fuel trucks are probably fleet trucks though). In maryland we get a pretty fat tax credit for buying one.
The idea of a CNG dual fuel truck, with dual gasoline tanks is appealing. I like the idea of refueling monthly.
Matt
ps. - does anyone own a Compressed natural gas, dual fuel, or lp powered truck? I was looking at the ford website at the different setups they had and wondered what an owner though about them (Most of the alternative fuel trucks are probably fleet trucks though). In maryland we get a pretty fat tax credit for buying one.
The idea of a CNG dual fuel truck, with dual gasoline tanks is appealing. I like the idea of refueling monthly.
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No, dual tanks havent been available since 1996 on F150s 
There are quite a few bi-fuel trucks running around here. As a matter of fact we have the engine out of one in the shop right now
They do work well, have good driveablity and seem to be not bad as far as fuel consumption goes. The main drawback to them is that they are terribly expensive.....around $8000 CDN extra apparently. Even converting the CDN dollars to US it still would be a lot. It would take a long time for the lower fuel prices to pay for that. I guess that's why the only factory Ford bi-fuel trucks around here are government trucks. There are lots of private people around here that have converted their vehicles to CNG and LPG and that costs way less than a factory conversion but i still don't think it pays unless you put tons of miles on your truck.
And if you think that changing spark plugs on a regular 5.4 is hard you should see one on CNG! Man is it ugly under the hood.
There are quite a few bi-fuel trucks running around here. As a matter of fact we have the engine out of one in the shop right now
They do work well, have good driveablity and seem to be not bad as far as fuel consumption goes. The main drawback to them is that they are terribly expensive.....around $8000 CDN extra apparently. Even converting the CDN dollars to US it still would be a lot. It would take a long time for the lower fuel prices to pay for that. I guess that's why the only factory Ford bi-fuel trucks around here are government trucks. There are lots of private people around here that have converted their vehicles to CNG and LPG and that costs way less than a factory conversion but i still don't think it pays unless you put tons of miles on your truck.
And if you think that changing spark plugs on a regular 5.4 is hard you should see one on CNG! Man is it ugly under the hood.
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"I guess that's why the only factory Ford bi-fuel trucks around here are government trucks."
Only the government, in its infinite wisdom, would spend an extra $6,000.00 to save $2,500.00 in fuel costs over the life of the vehicle.
It makes them look good to their liberal friends. And they can always RAISE TAXES to make up the loss. We won't complain.
Only the government, in its infinite wisdom, would spend an extra $6,000.00 to save $2,500.00 in fuel costs over the life of the vehicle.
It makes them look good to their liberal friends. And they can always RAISE TAXES to make up the loss. We won't complain.
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Apparently the main reason the gov't uses them is to look "greener". It makes it look like they care about the environment.
Too bad that making both CNG and LPG causes pollution though. Same as hydrogen powered vehicles. And electric vehicles. Those coal burning power plants and nuclear power plants are real good for the environment I'm sure.
Too bad that making both CNG and LPG causes pollution though. Same as hydrogen powered vehicles. And electric vehicles. Those coal burning power plants and nuclear power plants are real good for the environment I'm sure.
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And they take a huge loss when pulled from service. D/FW Airport recently auctioned off a 2000 model and two 2001 model 7700 trucks with dedicated CNG tanks that will not run on gasoline. The trucks, which had around 90,000 miles, sold for LESS than $2500 whereas similar year and mileage gas powered trucks go for $5000-$7000 at dealers.
Which is why I'm going to buy one when the next auction rolls around. Who wouldn't want a 7700lb GVW truck with cold air and clean body lines, less than six years old, for less than $2500? The only catch is you have to have a credit card to pump your fuel. I have a public station 10 minutes away, anther one 30 minutes away, and five more over in Dallas. Oklahoma has even better coverage and I plan to take trips there from time to time to pick up cars to resell.
Which is why I'm going to buy one when the next auction rolls around. Who wouldn't want a 7700lb GVW truck with cold air and clean body lines, less than six years old, for less than $2500? The only catch is you have to have a credit card to pump your fuel. I have a public station 10 minutes away, anther one 30 minutes away, and five more over in Dallas. Oklahoma has even better coverage and I plan to take trips there from time to time to pick up cars to resell.
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