Weight-lifting Supplements
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There's already been a lot of good advice here. I'll add some more. If you must supplement, do your wallet a favor and stay away from GNC. They are some 30 - 55% higher in cost than a lot of online stores. Try dpsnutrition.com, or 1fast400.com. I've ordered online for over 3 years now and have never had regrets. I suspect I've saved over $500 by buying online versus GNC.
Also, visit this website and its forums for some truly excellent advice concerning training and nutrition. www.ironmagazine.com
This site has a few competitive BBers, male and female, that are completely natural and know their sport.
Also, visit this website and its forums for some truly excellent advice concerning training and nutrition. www.ironmagazine.com
This site has a few competitive BBers, male and female, that are completely natural and know their sport.
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Weight-lifting Supplements
I have a question relating to supplements that help with joint building. I destroyed my shoulder a while back, and I haven't been able to afford the surgery to fix it. I can't lift weights traditionally because it's too painful, so I swim and snowboard and hike to stay in shape, and lift fairly heavy stuff at work. But my shoulder doesn't seem to want to get stronger, even if I isolate it and work the hell out of it. Any ideas? I have heard that lutein and chondroitin help with joint problems...is this true?
Maybe I should just shekel out for the surgery...my brother had it done and he says it's like night and day...
BDV
Maybe I should just shekel out for the surgery...my brother had it done and he says it's like night and day...
BDV
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Originally posted by big_daddy_velvet
I have a question relating to supplements that help with joint building. I destroyed my shoulder a while back, and I haven't been able to afford the surgery to fix it. I can't lift weights traditionally because it's too painful, so I swim and snowboard and hike to stay in shape, and lift fairly heavy stuff at work. But my shoulder doesn't seem to want to get stronger, even if I isolate it and work the hell out of it. Any ideas? I have heard that lutein and chondroitin help with joint problems...is this true?
Maybe I should just shekel out for the surgery...my brother had it done and he says it's like night and day...
BDV
I have a question relating to supplements that help with joint building. I destroyed my shoulder a while back, and I haven't been able to afford the surgery to fix it. I can't lift weights traditionally because it's too painful, so I swim and snowboard and hike to stay in shape, and lift fairly heavy stuff at work. But my shoulder doesn't seem to want to get stronger, even if I isolate it and work the hell out of it. Any ideas? I have heard that lutein and chondroitin help with joint problems...is this true?
Maybe I should just shekel out for the surgery...my brother had it done and he says it's like night and day...
BDV
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A hearty second on the Glucosamine with chondroitin supplements. I take the "MoveFree" but any good brand will do. My elbows give me problems from years of heavy lifting and this has been one supp that has made a BIG difference. Its really helped. Regarding your shoulder, I'd stay away from the machines and use light dumbell work to isolate and slowly rebuild muscle. I'm a big advocate of dumbell work, you can go lighter and get better isolation then machines. It sounds like you really need a good opinion from a doctor though....if it flat out needs surgery then it does.
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Oh, yeah...it flat out needs surgery. I just flat out can't afford it!
How does the Glucosamine/Condroitin work? Does it work on the cartilage, or does it lube? Either way, I think I'll give it a shot.
As far as working the shoulder out, it's actually pretty strong...it's just tight and it pops alot. I am working on flexibility and trying to make it more limber. I can lift weight with it, I just can't hold weight, and it hurts to lift alot of weight.
I have insurance now, and if I can save up a couple grand, maybe I can get the surgery done this fall before snowboarding season.
BDV
How does the Glucosamine/Condroitin work? Does it work on the cartilage, or does it lube? Either way, I think I'll give it a shot.
As far as working the shoulder out, it's actually pretty strong...it's just tight and it pops alot. I am working on flexibility and trying to make it more limber. I can lift weight with it, I just can't hold weight, and it hurts to lift alot of weight.
I have insurance now, and if I can save up a couple grand, maybe I can get the surgery done this fall before snowboarding season.
BDV
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Well, this is one of those things that has tons of ancedotal evidence, but I don't think the FDA has validated its claims. Its supposed to lube and repair, and in my direct experience and a couple of my buddies, it has worked surprising well. Pain has lessened, and the "snap-crackle-pop" of cartilege has almost disapeared. I don't endorse much, but this combo I do. Stick with the free weights and go lighter. Strict concentration and form is much more important than heavy weight. Good luck and stay safe.
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I would recommend lifting heavy, as in 6 rep sets and stuff, mainly on the compound lifts. But yes, form is extremely important. Push yourself to the limit, but don't use momentum or back-arching or cheating to help. That actually makes the limit easier, and far more dangerous. And being skinny (if you are, I don't know), just means you have to take a different approach then some. What's more impressive, a 150 lb. guy lifting 300 lbs., or a 300 lb. guy lifting 400 lbs.? The little guy. Plus he will be faster, which has plenty of advantages. I know somebody who started out benching 65 in his freshman year. Sad huh? Well, 4 years later he can put up 165, maybe 170. He was skinny as anything too. But slowly, while others who benched 200 before are slacking off, he is creeping up on them. And given a few more years, he will not be the skinny guy anymore. If you're in highschool, supplements shouldn't be your focus. Lifting should be, it's takes awhile to develope technique, and everyone learns from trial and error. Some ways work for some and not others.
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Don't worry about my weightlifting regimen...I don't lift weights. I lift plenty of weight at work, and I get a good workout when I have to deliver drop pipe. Plus, today I lumped about 200 square feet of wet snow @36" depth with a shovel...my shoulder is SORE.
I prefer to swim to work the shoulder, but man, does it burn out fast. I used to be able to swim a mile at a time; now I am down to 20 laps, and my form is all messed up cuz I can't get my arm over the top properly.
Oh well. I'll try the G/C combo next week, and see how well it works.
BDV
I prefer to swim to work the shoulder, but man, does it burn out fast. I used to be able to swim a mile at a time; now I am down to 20 laps, and my form is all messed up cuz I can't get my arm over the top properly.
Oh well. I'll try the G/C combo next week, and see how well it works.
BDV
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