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Hoping someone can help me with this:
I have a frame that has been clipped with a LTD front end, it was under a 56 Ford I have. I am redoing the body and decided to clean up the frame and rebuild the suspension etc.etc. as the truck drove really well. I was looking at another 53 - 56 F100 frame (stock that I have in the shop) and some of the cross members are in different spots.
My questions is I have found a 14 digit number stamped in the frame rail on the top side on the drivers side in between where the running board mounts. Does anyone know what this would be?
All the cab mounts, running board mounts, cross members and rear shackle mounts are still riveted on which makes me think this is a stock frame.
Thanks in advance for any help
Cheers,
Keith
I have a frame that has been clipped with a LTD front end, it was under a 56 Ford I have. I am redoing the body and decided to clean up the frame and rebuild the suspension etc.etc. as the truck drove really well. I was looking at another 53 - 56 F100 frame (stock that I have in the shop) and some of the cross members are in different spots.
My questions is I have found a 14 digit number stamped in the frame rail on the top side on the drivers side in between where the running board mounts. Does anyone know what this would be?
All the cab mounts, running board mounts, cross members and rear shackle mounts are still riveted on which makes me think this is a stock frame.
Thanks in advance for any help
Cheers,
Keith
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Hoping someone can help me with this:
I have a frame that has been clipped with a LTD front end, it was under a 56 Ford I have. I am redoing the body and decided to clean up the frame and rebuild the suspension etc.etc. as the truck drove really well. I was looking at another 53 - 56 F100 frame (stock that I have in the shop) and some of the cross members are in different spots.
My questions is I have found a 14 digit number stamped in the frame rail on the top side on the drivers side in between where the running board mounts. Does anyone know what this would be?
All the cab mounts, running board mounts, cross members and rear shackle mounts are still riveted on which makes me think this is a stock frame.
Thanks in advance for any help
Cheers,
Keith
I have a frame that has been clipped with a LTD front end, it was under a 56 Ford I have. I am redoing the body and decided to clean up the frame and rebuild the suspension etc.etc. as the truck drove really well. I was looking at another 53 - 56 F100 frame (stock that I have in the shop) and some of the cross members are in different spots.
My questions is I have found a 14 digit number stamped in the frame rail on the top side on the drivers side in between where the running board mounts. Does anyone know what this would be?
All the cab mounts, running board mounts, cross members and rear shackle mounts are still riveted on which makes me think this is a stock frame.
Thanks in advance for any help
Cheers,
Keith
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I think this may knock a few socks off but here goes.
I have been thinking about doing a post on this very subject. I gather that the numbers and letters in brackets are ones that your not sure of. I think your number should be 1831010TK17064. I am not sure what the exact last five digets would be as I believe they are production numbers. It would be nice to know where you are from. It is my guess that you are some where in Canada. Have you looked at your registration?
Now this is where things get interesting and I am probably going to get a
!! I believe that the complete number is the actual vin number for a 53 - 56 (probably a 56) Ford or Merc. F-100 built in Oakville, Ont., Can. I have been thinking of doing a post about this subject as I have never seen any reference about Oakville trucks on this forume. I believe that trucks built in Oakville used a totally different vin number than trucks built in Windsor, Ont., Can.
If any one wants to differ with me please do so, I love a good debate.
Hope this helps - Bye for now
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Hi I think this may knock a few socks off but here goes. I have been thinking about doing a post on this very subject. I gather that the numbers and letters in brackets are ones that your not sure of. I think your number should be 1831010TK17064. I am not sure what the exact last five digets would be as I believe they are production numbers.
It would be nice to know where you are from. It is my guess that you are some where in Canada. Have you looked at your registration?
Now this is where things get interesting and I am probably going to get a !! I believe that the complete number is the actual vin number for a 53 - 56 (probably a 56) Ford or Merc. F-100 built in Oakville, Ont., Can.
I have been thinking of doing a post about this subject as I have never seen any reference about Oakville trucks on this forume. I believe that trucks built in Oakville used a totally different vin number than trucks built in Windsor, Ont., Can.
If any one wants to differ with me please do so, I love a good debate.
Hope this helps - Bye for now
I think this may knock a few socks off but here goes. I have been thinking about doing a post on this very subject. I gather that the numbers and letters in brackets are ones that your not sure of. I think your number should be 1831010TK17064. I am not sure what the exact last five digets would be as I believe they are production numbers. It would be nice to know where you are from. It is my guess that you are some where in Canada. Have you looked at your registration?
Now this is where things get interesting and I am probably going to get a
!! I believe that the complete number is the actual vin number for a 53 - 56 (probably a 56) Ford or Merc. F-100 built in Oakville, Ont., Can. I have been thinking of doing a post about this subject as I have never seen any reference about Oakville trucks on this forume. I believe that trucks built in Oakville used a totally different vin number than trucks built in Windsor, Ont., Can.
If any one wants to differ with me please do so, I love a good debate.
Hope this helps - Bye for now
Tuned
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Hi again - this old fart finally woke up this morning and figured out your some where in Alberta. Sorry I should have said this before- Welcome to the site !!
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I didn't even know there was a plant in Oakville. There has never been a thread on northern vins afaik. We did the one on 48-50's out of curiosity and I for one would like to know what Ford of Canada did.
Go for it old ugly, only start a new thread with a Canada Vin title.
Go for it old ugly, only start a new thread with a Canada Vin title.
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Hi I think this may knock a few socks off but here goes. I have been thinking about doing a post on this very subject. I gather that the numbers and letters in brackets are ones that your not sure of. I think your number should be 1831010TK17064. I am not sure what the exact last five digets would be as I believe they are production numbers.
It would be nice to know where you are from. It is my guess that you are some where in Canada. Have you looked at your registration?
Now this is where things get interesting and I am probably going to get a !! I believe that the complete number is the actual vin number for a 53 - 56 (probably a 56) Ford or Merc. F-100 built in Oakville, Ont., Can.
I have been thinking of doing a post about this subject as I have never seen any reference about Oakville trucks on this forume. I believe that trucks built in Oakville used a totally different vin number than trucks built in Windsor, Ont., Can.
If any one wants to differ with me please do so, I love a good debate.
Hope this helps - Bye for now
I think this may knock a few socks off but here goes. I have been thinking about doing a post on this very subject. I gather that the numbers and letters in brackets are ones that your not sure of. I think your number should be 1831010TK17064. I am not sure what the exact last five digets would be as I believe they are production numbers. It would be nice to know where you are from. It is my guess that you are some where in Canada. Have you looked at your registration?
Now this is where things get interesting and I am probably going to get a
!! I believe that the complete number is the actual vin number for a 53 - 56 (probably a 56) Ford or Merc. F-100 built in Oakville, Ont., Can. I have been thinking of doing a post about this subject as I have never seen any reference about Oakville trucks on this forume. I believe that trucks built in Oakville used a totally different vin number than trucks built in Windsor, Ont., Can.
If any one wants to differ with me please do so, I love a good debate.
Hope this helps - Bye for now
I will drag my grinder outside once the snow has melted and check to see if the another frame I have has a similar 14 digit number on the frame.
So if the number is 1831010TK17064, what does it mean?
Thanks,
Tuned
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I didn't even know there was a plant in Oakville. There has never been a thread on northern vins afaik. We did the one on 48-50's out of curiosity and I for one would like to know what Ford of Canada did.
Go for it old ugly, only start a new thread with a Canada Vin title.
Go for it old ugly, only start a new thread with a Canada Vin title.
Oh sure, you not only want me to get a but want me to get beat up too !! Just joking, will see what I can do. Most of my info is from the junk I have laying around.
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You are correct I am from Canada (BC & AB) this chassis was under my 1956 Mercury M100, my Vin number was removed by ICBC as it was customized and I had to get a BC Special VIN Plate about 15 years ago.... so I have no idea what the original VIN is anymore
I will drag my grinder outside once the snow has melted and check to see if the another frame I have has a similar 14 digit number on the frame.
So if the number is 1831010TK17064, what does it mean?
Thanks,
I will drag my grinder outside once the snow has melted and check to see if the another frame I have has a similar 14 digit number on the frame.
So if the number is 1831010TK17064, what does it mean?
Thanks,
. I had a 56 M-100 that I still have the frame and registration for and it has the exact basic vin number as your frame. That pick-up was a standard cab with 6 cyl. (223 c.i. if I remember correctly), 3 spd. LD, short box. As for deciphering the vin I haven't really figured that out yet. Will do as mtflat suggested so watch for it.Bye for now.
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Here's what little bit I know. The numbers make sense, but in a different format than what my information says it should be. A Canadian '56 pickup vin, Ford or Mercury, (apparently, ford stopped identifying them differently in their vins by '56) would read 1083AKT10001.
The breakdown would be;
10 = model series F-100 or M-100,
83=Body style, pickup,
A=standard trim cab, B would denote custom cab
K=assembly plant, Oakville,
T=code for model year 1956,
followed by the consecutive unit number.
This is from Ford documentation posted on the Mercury Trucks website. 1956 Ford & Mercury Serial Plate It seems that Ford of Canada had a habit of changing their vin codes on a fairly regular basis through the 50's. According to the data, Oakville is where trucks were built after 1954 or 55. It's the only plant shown in their decode data.
It's unlikely different plants would use a differing number/letter sequence in their vins. That kind of thing would be set down by corporate and be standardized company wide. There'd be too much room for confusion if every plant did their own thing.
The breakdown would be;
10 = model series F-100 or M-100,
83=Body style, pickup,
A=standard trim cab, B would denote custom cab
K=assembly plant, Oakville,
T=code for model year 1956,
followed by the consecutive unit number.
This is from Ford documentation posted on the Mercury Trucks website. 1956 Ford & Mercury Serial Plate It seems that Ford of Canada had a habit of changing their vin codes on a fairly regular basis through the 50's. According to the data, Oakville is where trucks were built after 1954 or 55. It's the only plant shown in their decode data.
It's unlikely different plants would use a differing number/letter sequence in their vins. That kind of thing would be set down by corporate and be standardized company wide. There'd be too much room for confusion if every plant did their own thing.
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From: Burbank, WA
Hi again . I had a 56 M-100 that I still have the frame and registration for and it has the exact basic vin number as your frame. That pick-up was a standard cab with 6 cyl. (223 c.i. if I remember correctly), 3 spd. LD, short box. As for deciphering the vin I haven't really figured that out yet. Will do as mtflat suggested so watch for it.
Bye for now.
. I had a 56 M-100 that I still have the frame and registration for and it has the exact basic vin number as your frame. That pick-up was a standard cab with 6 cyl. (223 c.i. if I remember correctly), 3 spd. LD, short box. As for deciphering the vin I haven't really figured that out yet. Will do as mtflat suggested so watch for it.Bye for now.
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Old ugly, please post it on this forum. The main page I don't even go to. I've got my laptop linked directly to 48-60 and besides this is a whole lot friendlier than the others.
The 48-50 Vin post started with just info Carl and I had stored between us. Same thing you're talking about. Go for it - just post it here. Morris is the best moderator we have!!
Looks like you and Wayne could provide a valuable service to all the CAN truck people out there. Thanks guys.
The 48-50 Vin post started with just info Carl and I had stored between us. Same thing you're talking about. Go for it - just post it here. Morris is the best moderator we have!!
Looks like you and Wayne could provide a valuable service to all the CAN truck people out there. Thanks guys.