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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Just bought my first truck about a week ago...97 F250 PSD with a ZF5. When driving and shifting there is alot of transmission "clatter". I pulled the inspection plate off the tranny and i believe i have a dual mass flywheel. I would like to do the solid flywheel conversion but i am lost with all of the options. Any help or info would be great! Sorry for being such a newbie. Great forum.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Valair Clutch

Call and talk to dan or gary.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 10:54 PM
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Ditto on the Valair.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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I've called there a few times and got someone other than Dan, i wont mention names but he was pretty rude more than once and to another person i referred to over there. So if he's available ask for Dan lol other than that I couldn't be happier with my set up, I've pushed my Kevlar/ceramic to it's limits and I cannot get it to slip! If you get a higher hp rated clutch you will experience some of that clatter just a more toned down version. The DMF is designed to remove that noise and the new spring clutch design helps with it in a SMF swap but does not eliminate all of it. Going stock clutch I wouldn't worry about the noise at all.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 08:11 AM
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The only one I dealt with had the Aussie accent and was real good to me. I fixed a few trucks all good deal.
 

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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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He's not there anymore.

If you cannot get Dan, talk to Gary. Gary has more time to chat then Dan also if your a chatty person.

Dan only sent me cards for him and Gary. haha
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Is the clatter noise from the higher grade clutches unbearable? If I'm going to be paying all this money down the road for a clutch, I'd hate for it to clatter...
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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You can spend 600 on a DMF and find a clutch to put up to it, or you can spend 200 on a SMF and listen to the motor resonance at idle.

Thats your options.
The DMF is just going to fail again.
That is if you can find one.

Its hit or miss on the rollover noise.
Mine went away, Occasionally you hear it, but not often.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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I believe for 600-700 you can pickup a valair organic replacement.
That comes with the SMF IIRC.

But like I said, the DMF, just the flywheel itself, is 2-3 times as expensive as a SMF.

Midnight Mods: Dual Mass Flywheels For Dummies

See how many parts are in a DMF and realize why they are such a bad idea. =)
I'll take rollover to 30+ pieces. Which some are plastic and rubber.

In the final pictures I took, I didn't actually ahve all the pieces there, there were ltitle rubber pieces and stuff everywhere.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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Yeah, after seeing that, I'm definitely going to go single mass if/when I do the transmission swap. What does the noise sound like, exactly? I don't care if it's just noise, but if it makes the truck sound like a rattling bucket of bolts... well, then I'll have to fix that somehow.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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I think of it as a groan.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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my gear roll over was OBNOXIOUS, when ever i could i would keep my foot on the clutch at all times, i even hated letting it idol when i was around and im a big fan of leaving it running when i run into a store real quick of something. but its taken like...8000 miles and its not all that bad any more but its still there a little bit, not nearly as bad as it was.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Steve, if you had worn your BallCap correctly during the install.... :P
 
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