A Cold Start Video
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A Cold Start Video
35* in this video... not bad for 305K. New GP's and the GPR is good. ICP and DC are perfect, everything else I haven't listed is good except the turbo developed a ridiculous amount of play almost overnight and is now rubbing on the housing... I'm not joking either, it just makes no sense! It's not rubbing enough to really slow it down because I still makes good boost and there's no black smoke or loss of power so I'm good to go for awhile. Anyways, it has a slightly irregular idle until it warms up but it goes away when the smoke does and that's when it warms up. It also seems to be related with how long it'd been sitting since I last fired it up... the longer it sits, the more it smokes. I've heard of this happening in a more extreme situation where an injector was bad and caused over-fueling until it warmed up. My mileage isn't too hot, but I'm chocking it up to cold weather, 10-15 minute warm-ups, mixed driving, and 200 miles of mountain driving with 2.5K in the bed every tank. What do y'all think? I'm gonna rebuild the turbo (makes me mad because I just JUST had it out and it was TIGHT!!!), but that's about it... it still runs like a scalded dog when it warms up and I have no money for sticks anyways. So yeah, take a watch and a good listen... it's gonna take some speakers or headphones with VERY good bass reproduction to hear it. Otherwise, just watch the smoke show! I've got a hunch the whole thing boils down to old sticks... BTW, this is my new starter I just put in! I also have the 15* pump and my LPOP might not supply the HPOP quite as fast as it used to... who knows. It starts and it runs so I'm not gonna go looking for problems! Thanks, guys!
YouTube - 7.3L Cold Start
YouTube - 7.3L Cold Start
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I see the same thing with my truck, but less smoke at start up. It does it on 60-65* degree mornings also. Sometimes it idles smooth and others a little rough. Been scratching my head on this one too. We have different injectors and turbo, yet are doing similar things. Mine does seem to smoke less on warmer days, so temperature does factor in with what is going on with it. I usually get a small puff after it has idled at a traffic stop, or while closing a gate, then accelerating away.
Jon, figure this one out so we'll both know.
Jon, figure this one out so we'll both know.
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I see the same thing with my truck, but less smoke at start up. It does it on 60-65* degree mornings also. Sometimes it idles smooth and others a little rough. Been scratching my head on this one too. We have different injectors and turbo, yet are doing similar things. Mine does seem to smoke less on warmer days, so temperature does factor in with what is going on with it. I usually get a small puff after it has idled at a traffic stop, or while closing a gate, then accelerating away.
Jon, figure this one out so we'll both know.
Jon, figure this one out so we'll both know.
#5
Mine too........
EDIT: Here's mine starting in the teens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDr_Zem6xHw
EDIT: Here's mine starting in the teens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDr_Zem6xHw
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Jonathan I'm actually ~30,000 miles behind you on my 2000 Ex, and I live 30 minutes away from you in Mathews. Anyway, do you have the stock turbo? I was wondering the other day how much life I have left in mine. I was thinking about pulling it to check for shaft play. My drivetrain is 100% stock and I'm really easy on it btw.
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Jonathan I'm actually ~30,000 miles behind you on my 2000 Ex, and I live 30 minutes away from you in Mathews. Anyway, do you have the stock turbo? I was wondering the other day how much life I have left in mine. I was thinking about pulling it to check for shaft play. My drivetrain is 100% stock and I'm really easy on it btw.
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Jon,
How old are your injector o-rings? Perhaps the middle o-ring shrinks up a tiny bit when it's cold and seals up good once warm? I was going to ask if you've had your oil sampled recently but I doubt you would see anything since the oil pressure is much greater than fuel pressure. You might check our fuel filter next time you replace it and see if you see any signs of oil. (benefits of the regulated return...)
I agree with you though...
Doesn't really seem like a serious issue so no sense in trying to look for problems.
How old are your injector o-rings? Perhaps the middle o-ring shrinks up a tiny bit when it's cold and seals up good once warm? I was going to ask if you've had your oil sampled recently but I doubt you would see anything since the oil pressure is much greater than fuel pressure. You might check our fuel filter next time you replace it and see if you see any signs of oil. (benefits of the regulated return...)
I agree with you though...
Doesn't really seem like a serious issue so no sense in trying to look for problems.
#10
Jon,
How old are your injector o-rings? Perhaps the middle o-ring shrinks up a tiny bit when it's cold and seals up good once warm? I was going to ask if you've had your oil sampled recently but I doubt you would see anything since the oil pressure is much greater than fuel pressure. You might check our fuel filter next time you replace it and see if you see any signs of oil. (benefits of the regulated return...)
I agree with you though...
Doesn't really seem like a serious issue so no sense in trying to look for problems.
How old are your injector o-rings? Perhaps the middle o-ring shrinks up a tiny bit when it's cold and seals up good once warm? I was going to ask if you've had your oil sampled recently but I doubt you would see anything since the oil pressure is much greater than fuel pressure. You might check our fuel filter next time you replace it and see if you see any signs of oil. (benefits of the regulated return...)
I agree with you though...
Doesn't really seem like a serious issue so no sense in trying to look for problems.
#11
Hard to say, I guess it depends on the quality of fuel in your area. My filter normally looks about the same as a new one. Slightly brown-ish but definitely not black. I change every 15K as well.
I hear you about not fixing stuff that isn't broke (yet). Thank goodness for the volume **** on my radio because sometimes when I hear a strange noise I just turn up the radio and the problem goes away.
305k is great. Here's to many many more miles to come.
I hear you about not fixing stuff that isn't broke (yet). Thank goodness for the volume **** on my radio because sometimes when I hear a strange noise I just turn up the radio and the problem goes away.
305k is great. Here's to many many more miles to come.
#12
Hard to say, I guess it depends on the quality of fuel in your area. My filter normally looks about the same as a new one. Slightly brown-ish but definitely not black. I change every 15K as well.
I hear you about not fixing stuff that isn't broke (yet). Thank goodness for the volume **** on my radio because sometimes when I hear a strange noise I just turn up the radio and the problem goes away.
305k is great. Here's to many many more miles to come.
I hear you about not fixing stuff that isn't broke (yet). Thank goodness for the volume **** on my radio because sometimes when I hear a strange noise I just turn up the radio and the problem goes away.
305k is great. Here's to many many more miles to come.
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