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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Hydrogen supercharged V10

Ford V-10 Hydrogen Engine Powers Shuttle | GreenCar.com

So apparently the 3v v10 has an evil little cousin. Not awesome on power because of emissions, but the charger looks to be the one we've been searching for....




This is the company who made it and THE supercharger without the Ford logo and whatnot.

http://www.lysholm.us/_3300ax.php
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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These engines were 2v engines, not 3v. They were also pushing about 20 psi of boost, so you would have to build a very stout engine and underdrive the blower.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MN_Viking
Ford V-10 Hydrogen Engine Powers Shuttle | GreenCar.com

So apparently the 3v v10 has an evil little cousin. Not awesome on power because of emissions, but the charger looks to be the one we've been searching for....




This is the company who made it and THE supercharger without the Ford logo and whatnot.

3300 AX Supercharger | Lysholm
Thanks for the info aswell sweet pic, i'd love to get the part number of that little piece on the water pump that extends the fan out before i went gun-ho
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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And, they were only pushing 20lbs of boost on HYDROGEN, which requires a lot of boost to get reasonable power numbers. It didn't run 20lbs on gas.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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And, they were only pushing 20lbs of boost on HYDROGEN, which requires a lot of boost to get reasonable power numbers. It didn't run 20lbs on gas.
Yes but air is the majority of the compressible gas. Therefore running either gasoline or hydrogen your boost pressure will be very similar. For that engine to be pushing 20 psi of boost means it has a large supercharger. If you can do it, it would be very inefficient to underdrive a blower to 1/4 of its capacity.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Yes but air is the majority of the compressible gas. Therefore running either gasoline or hydrogen your boost pressure will be very similar. For that engine to be pushing 20 psi of boost means it has a large supercharger. If you can do it, it would be very inefficient to underdrive a blower to 1/4 of its capacity.
the reason behinde underdriving the super charger is to acomidate the compresion ratio, due to raised air temps all this combined with are "aditive" gas makes it unstable one could say causing knock or detonation.

Sure you can lower the compresion ratio of the motor so the feul will remain stable to 20 psi but i bet you a bufflo nickel I can make a more nominal power band with less psi and more C/R. It's give and take...
 
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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I emailed ford commercial out of michigan about getting part numbers for the motor. I guess we will see if there are any parts lying around.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 07:57 AM
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That hydroboost engine shuts off the blower when running on anything but hydrogen.

My point was the engine isn't "BUILT UP" for the extra boost.

It does, however, have a big blower
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Their website ha some very interesting offerings for other engine combos. They have a very nice setup for the 5.4 in a Mustang Cobra.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Wooops, all along, I thought the link above points to Ford's offering where it was said to be a multi-fuel engine. The one in the link is 100% hydrogen.

I wonder, if the intake is available as an orderable part?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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These engines were made years ago and only came in shuttle buses. Once the shuttle buses were decommissioned the engines were removed and destroyed. I've been trying to get my hands on one for years and have connections at ford and they say its a no go. You have a better chance of winning the powerball than getting your hands on one of these units.

FYI: The front drive setup for the supercharger is the same for Ford Lightnings
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Ford went to all that trouble building that awsome SC V10 and running on Hydrogen and it puts out less power than a NA NPI 2V V10. Shame on you Ford, you could have least put a gasoline version in the lightning.
 
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Originally Posted by Boostcrazy99
These engines were made years ago and only came in shuttle buses. Once the shuttle buses were decommissioned the engines were removed and destroyed. I've been trying to get my hands on one for years and have connections at ford and they say its a no go. You have a better chance of winning the powerball than getting your hands on one of these units.

FYI: The front drive setup for the supercharger is the same for Ford Lightnings
You might be able to get one if you worked at DST, Dearborne Steel Tubing. They do a lot of work with Ford.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Why in the hell would they destroy the motors?!?!?!?!


I cant think of them being that much of a pain in the *** for ford that they needed to scrap them.....thats just dumb.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Why in the hell would they destroy the motors?!?!?!?!

I cant think of them being that much of a pain in the *** for ford that they needed to scrap them.....thats just dumb.
Same reason they spend millions on a concept vehicle they never put into production. PR more than anything. If I had 1% of the money the auto industry spent in the last quarter century on basically worthlesss projects and PR projects I would be a wealthy man.
 
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