After all the excellent advice on power window replacment, I obviously missed a first step which I know was covered in this forum...but... 4hours later...diver side power window motor replaced, I checked red and yellow power and the new motor is in working order.. After the 4 hour install job, hit switch on drivers door and NOTHING. I am concluding the switch or wiring is bad...? Any suggestions.. what else do I have to do on my day off?

Dutch

 

You'll need to make sure that you have power to the switch. If you have power to the switch, pull the switch and make sure that it is closing the circuit with an multi-meter.

I did a very similar thing with a fuel pump switch. Checked everything else before the switch. Believe me, I learned from that one.

They're not Rookie Mistakes, they are Learning Experiences.

Good luck and keep us posted.

 

multi meter, pull the switch... ouch!!. Maybe out of my league... I took apart the component that houses the mirror, lock and door switches. Does the window wsitch component snap out? However, that's where I am stumped? Unsure how to pull the switch for the drivers window? Plus, If I borrow multi meter, unsure where to check for circuit?

Dutch

 

I don't know what your housing looks like or how the switch comes out.

I'd have to see it to be able to help.

Guessing here, there should be three terminals per window switch. One will be 12v and the other two are dependent on switch position. When the switch is pressed it makes contact inside and transfers the power. Lets see if I can make something here by what I think it should look like.


Power Up terminal
________



Power Source
12v



Power Down Terminal
_________



If you take a test light to the center wire, it should show hot.

When you depress the switch for up, the power up terminal should be hot and the same for the power down terminal. If they aren't, its the switch.

Dunno if this helps. I know the Chiltons and Hayes manuals are somewhat vague on this, but do you have one? It might show the switch setup. I can go get mine if you need more help.

 

Hmm. ok, yes inside the housing of the switch are three leads/terminals per switch.. I thought about cutting the wires blue/white.. but instead put a light/volt guage against the terminal/contact. I have power up to this point. So, I guess the switch is shot? And, if this is the case, then I swapped out a totally good Ford motor for a Discount Auto 42.95 part. So, now I need the switch component. Am on the the right track

 

And one more thing... I do not have Chiltons or Haynes manual, ..yet... The window symptoms before the crash were that he window worked then stopped for a week then worked for 3 days, then one day then nothing.

 

Sounds like your on track.

If you don't have power with the switch pressed, your contacts are shot inside it. They wear out, build up crude, etc.

You can also take a jumper from the hot wire to one of the other terminals and see if the motor works. If it does, then the problem is the switch. To do that, pull the harness off the switch, and jumper the harness that plugs into the back of the switch.

Keep me posted as I will try to help if I can.

 

Oh, and think of it this way, you have an extra motor for when one does go out.

You can always sell it on eBay, or here.

 

Thanks.... I'm pricing out a switch right now and closing the window... gotta put the Bronco in the garage (family type garage) not garage as in .... GARAGE... stormy here in FLA.

Dutch

PS
How do you like your 250?

 

Before you go out and buy a new switch, make sure you take it apart. Sometimes you just have dirty contacts. The rear window switch on my dash was not working and it turned out I had a ton of dirt on one of the contacts. Now it works just fine.

 

I priced a switch, $13.88 from Ford, Discount Auto does not carry.. Auto Zone does not carry, Bennett does not carry...
going to my "friendly" Ford dealere.. Which reminds me of a story.. So here goes..

About a year a half ago I was clipped from behind by a rice grinding hotrod, clipped as in I was turning onto a main drag and this little runtrunner ran an orange light.. heading east as I was. He went into the turn lane into oncoming trafic to avoid a city bus and as he whipped it back into his/my lane and he just nicked my fron qrt panel but caught the outer edge of the front bumper that sticks out , what an inch or two or 3? The impact spun the Bronco about 90 degrees.. He flashed brake lights but keep going. I gave pursuit after checking on my hunting dog who was riding in the back, the hound gave the thumbs up and I engaged all 8 cylinders.. I quickly broke off the chase when the renegade Honda Civic ran a red light. I pulled into a 7-11 to assess damage and shake off the shock. I called local cops who said give us 10 minutes. I soon realized my bumber was missing and realized it was laying in the road a mile to the west where the accident occurred. I rumbled back just in time to see a white work van off to the side of the road. I was hopeful that the van's occupants had witnessed the accident and had a plate number. NO SUCH LUCK! Three guys jumped out of the back of the cargo van and threw something inside and hauled hiney onto the interstate. The shiny object was my Ford Bronco front bumper. I did not get their plate number. I headed back to the 7-11 and gave the pertinent infor to John Q. Law who said he was from Georgia and was more interested if I hunt with the weimaraner? Fast forward to Ford.... I drove to Ford at night, filled out the infor dropped it in there customer care box, yea right, and was expecting a call next morning. When I didn't hear from them by noon I called. "What truck, sir we have no 1996 Bronco XLT, Pacific green mssing a front bumper" "Yes ma'am, you do.." "Let me check, sir" three hours later, "Yes, we misplaced it but we have it now. After misplacing my Bronco for a day, apparently it was over at the paint place., they decide to begin work... Replace bumper, check frame, axle, alignment etc.
I stopped in two days later and was looking in the back where all the repaired vehicles were. I said to the guy" where's my Bronco ?" he said, "right there" I said, "No" "What do you mean, no?" "Well", I said, "that Bronco over there looks like mine except you have a pickup truck bumper on it, (SOLID HUNK OF METAL)so I know that's not my truck even though you have my license plate on it and my towing hitch" "What do you mean wrong bumper?".. At this point I am either going to punch this guy in the face or calmly explain it again.... I tell him that I understand he didn't do the work but wrong, wrong , wrong anyway I want this fixed freakin now!!. no air jam, no black plastic detailing wrong bumper. Don't make me chase down the white Ford cargo van, beat the crap outta the three guys, get my original bumper and throw it at your pathetic feet just to make my point. don;t make me!! Ok we'll have to fix this,, "Yes, and give me a rental car for free until it's fixed" After 2 hours of playing can you get a rental car here? I drive home withoout my truck in some POS (PIECE OF ..) Chevy rental....
Two days later, I get the call. " all done come and get her". yee haw!! Well, I pull out of the dealership repair graveyard and the steering wheel is not aligned 9 and 3 rather 11 and 4? what the frock!!! I ball it over the median and now I'm hot.. I go inside the showroom and fire off "where is the incompotent owner of this place. where, where where.!!!!". "Calm down, calm down I'm repeatedly told.. come into my office, "no, no I bellow, Your half brained day pool laborers can't fix sh**t. ""
THREE MORE DAYS OF RENTAL CAR HE** Friday arrives, I come on in get the Bronco. So far so good driving at 35mph. Saturday I head or start to head up to Ocala to hunt.. About 65 mph we get the vibration shimmy , WHAT THE FROCK!!!!!
Well here come my ace in the hole. The high school I teach at has an automotive department. Students who go through all 4 years can leave as Ford tech newbies, that is Ford will place them at a dealership. It just so happens a student of mine who got along with me quite well works at "said" dealership (If you want to know the name of the dealership please email me) Matt, the student just so happens to stop by the high school auto shop where I am having lunch with the auto shop teacher and our regular crew. I give him the particulars about the shake and bake at 65. Then Matt confirms what every truck owner fears most,. "alignment?" Oh, no way the alignment machine has been down for about a week and will not be fixed for about another 5 days" Well, well well.... with this tidbit I saunter back in and exp-lain that i have a "slight" alignment problem, No problem leave the truck and pick it up tomorrow. Now, I suppose they may out source this job to another dealer, So I present the work invoice that had alignment spec, time date a and price... at which point I press alittle further and get the tech in the back to admit that the alignment issue may not get fixed in a timely mannner, would I like to talk to his supervisior. Sure, I say.. So, there we are, tech supervisor, dealership manager and me... trying to come to terms. Of course I could tell that the manager did not know the alignment machine was broken and I didn't want to fry the supervisor because he would fry the tech who would probably figure out that MAtt, the newbie, inadvertantly spilled the lug nuts. So, managerman with all apologies asks what he can do for me. At which point I wheel around to the new truck lot and tell him that I want to drive that F150 over there. By drive I mean use until you fix my Bronco.. Well, manager is about to say no when supervisor asks to speak with manager alone. Next thing I know I am sitting in a 2002 F150 not the one I pointed to this one had 250 miles on it so maybe it was a demo...but still... we're gonna get to know each other sweetheart....
The insurance deduct 500 leave me outta pocket 400 of that the alignment was 150 or so , I got them to drop that.
That dealership call me all the time and asks me how everything is going... And If I ever need service, the only person I want near my truck is Matt. If they won't put him on the job, I'll take it into the high school auto shop. Hope you enjoyed this story ,it's the least i can do as return for all the great tech infor in this forum

Dutch

 

I will dust off the contacts from the switch, if I can ever figure out how that sucker comes out. Has anyone taken one out before, I can see how I could break the whole component.

Dutch

 

Great story Dutch. My step father was a diesel mechanic at a dealership. OH the horror stories. I won't, I won't , I won't take a vehicle to the dealer. Of course, I won't buy a new one either. I'll let someone else take the 20% depreciation as they drive it off the lot and deal with the hassles of a new vehicle. Right now, my truck is freshman of our vehicles with 123,000 miles. We two full size Blazers, one with 263,000 miles and one with 147,000 miles. I think the last time any of these saw the dealership, big hair was "IN".

And as for the switch destruction, I mean removal, I don't think I can be of any help. Sorry.

 

Well how about that.... I took outlet meter, little lite with black red probes for common household electrical outlets .. Like a jumper, thanks for the tip, I placed red probe to white and black probe to blue and as I hit the switch halleluiegh! window go down window go up.. I remove the jumper and it all works. Was there a short or electrical lockup if such a thing exists?? How do you explain that.. And now that the window works, was this short term fix or have I undid the bad, and fixed her???

Dutch

 

JB;

that's funny!! I can laugh now, and yes, 1996 was the last new vehicle purchase for this camper, I only have 134,000 so plan to keep for loooooooong time

Dutch