TURNS OVER-NO START
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TURNS OVER-NO START
Stats: 04' SD 250, 6.0, 189,000 miles, egr delete, 4x4
Recent repairs: Cab lift to install Y pipe to turbo, egr delete, new starter
Problem: While driving on a rough dirt road the truck seemed like it was running out of fuel- happened 3 times in about 5 minutes. I would stop, put in park, turn key, truck would start right up. 2 hours later, returning home, the truck went dead. Would turn over but not start. Batteries are fully charged, engine would spin over fast but no start. After 3 hrs in the middle of no where I sprayed some ether in the air intake. Still spin over- no start. No try to start or nothing. I am at a loss. One friend said I have a broke camshaft just on information which has me sick. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Recent repairs: Cab lift to install Y pipe to turbo, egr delete, new starter
Problem: While driving on a rough dirt road the truck seemed like it was running out of fuel- happened 3 times in about 5 minutes. I would stop, put in park, turn key, truck would start right up. 2 hours later, returning home, the truck went dead. Would turn over but not start. Batteries are fully charged, engine would spin over fast but no start. After 3 hrs in the middle of no where I sprayed some ether in the air intake. Still spin over- no start. No try to start or nothing. I am at a loss. One friend said I have a broke camshaft just on information which has me sick. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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from what i understand you should never spray starting fluid in the intake on these new diesels, a friend of mine let his duramax run out of fuel and his father in law sprayed some in his intake and the truck over-reved when it started and threw a rod...
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I wouldnt think that your problems are from a broken camshaft. It maybe hpo or ficm related maybe something rattled loose on the rough dirt road check the connections to the ficm box ontop of the driver side valve cover.
you could also try to unplug the icp and see if it starts
you could also try to unplug the icp and see if it starts
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sence 03 I have seen exactly one broken crankshaft *caused by a case of dumba$$) and the only cam failers I have seen were from failed lifters.
IMO its not a cam or crank issue however ymmv.
check icp, fule pressure, and check for codes.
IMO its not a cam or crank issue however ymmv.
check icp, fule pressure, and check for codes.
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Just got home from work, I disconnected the air cooler to the intake and it just about sucked my hand in, checked the exhaust and it pushed my hand away. Guess the cam is ok. I am going to check the connections to the ficm and icp. Be back as soon as I have some answers. THANKS YOU GUYS
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It's a early 04 with the icp behind the turbo
I wouldnt think that your problems are from a broken camshaft. It maybe hpo or ficm related maybe something rattled loose on the rough dirt road check the connections to the ficm box ontop of the driver side valve cover.
you could also try to unplug the icp and see if it starts
you could also try to unplug the icp and see if it starts
Last edited by eagleinms; Mar 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM. Reason: changed procedure
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that middle connection was probably it check all the pins in the connectors make shure none are bent and make shure they are plugged in fulley.
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TURNS OVER- NO START UPDATE!!!!!!11
I tested my ficm voltage, 27.2 VDC with the key turn on. Can someone tell me what my next steps are? 1) look for cracked solder, 2) send for repair, 3) buy new ficm?
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Here is the link I used and it worked great. All credit to the writer and thanks! shows all pictures.
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Too many BETTER options than paying $1100 for a new one. Swamps $450, circuit board medics, ficmrepair.com.
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my buddy paid a grand for his at the dealer to I thought thats to easy of a fix as long as you know thats whats wrong with it to pay a grand
+1 with swamps and if you have really cold winters wear you live the 58 volt upgrade may be worth it
+1 with swamps and if you have really cold winters wear you live the 58 volt upgrade may be worth it
