I just recently bought a replacement 460 for my truck, and I just have a few questions.

Looking at the old engine compared to the new engine, there are a couple things that seem to be in different places. First off, where the fuel line goes in to either the pump/filter (i'm not sure which), is right next to the oil filter, like so;

Will this run into anything in the engine compartment?

Next, the ignition coil is in a different spot; its along side the distributer, not above it.

Is this something to worry about?

Lastly, the whole engine is set up a little bit differently because it was a generator. The upper radiator hose is in a different spot, and it is very stripped down.


So you guys see anything different that I might run into issues with? any help would be appreciated

 

Are you sure that is a 460? Looks like a Lima industrial engine to me. What did it come out of? could be a 370 or 429 and if so the harmonic dampener is different and some other stuff like flywheel and motor mounts should be different.

But I am pretty sure it is NOT a 460

 

It was a mobile generator on a flatbed truck. What could i do to see whether or not it is?

 

What is the code on the block above the starter? Also, codes on the heads on the outside just under the valve covers will help. They may or may not match the block.

 

What is the code on the block above the starter? Also, codes on the heads on the outside just under the valve covers will help. They may or may not match the block.

 

the block casting is D9TE-AB. The firing order on the intake manifold matches the order in my haynes manual, which is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8

 

well it's most likely a 429 then. (had the suffix been BB it would have been a 370)

yes it uses the same firing order as the 460 because it's the same engine family.

get the head casting number also. SOME of the industrial engines had CJ heads on them (few but you never know till you look)

Like I said tho, being an industrial engine it's not a 460. Advantages to the industrial 429 is it should have a forged steel crank, disadvantage is the front snout is to big diameter and needs to be turned down to fit standard harmonic dampeners.

distributor needs swapped out for a different one and the carb intake is usually setup to be restricted on RPMs.

As you can see the motor mounts are on the front timing cover. That timing cover is probably steel and needs replaced with a passenger car Alum one, water pump may need replaced too I don't remember. That cam is setup for industrial applications you will NOT like it in a pickup.

Depending on the heads it could be a decent starting point to build if you want to spend the money having the crank converted. BUT anymore you can by forged stroker cranks for about the same cost.

 

So in other words, I would need:

Cam
Crank
Timing cover
Intake
Carb
Water pump
Timing cover

If I were to go with this as a start?

 

I think he is saying you MAY get a crank if machining your existing one is cost prohibitive.

That said, dont get discouraged. That list you have there would most likely need replacing on many decent builds.

Just do some more research to know what you have and then move forward as you must.

 

I read that wrong. The forged steel crank is fine? And I think all of those other parts I can swap from my old engine that is coming out (Maybe a bit iffy on the cam). It's bad to re-use old parts, but i'm not made of money so this might be what I have to do

 

I wouldnt reuse the cam, but I dont think its all that bad to reuse parts as long as they are good parts. Main concern are the gasket surfaces on the timing cover and intake. The water pump is a little more since it has moving parts, but if it works, put it on. They are pretty cheap though, but they can also be changed any time.

If the carb works, use it. Rebuild kits for most carbs are under $30 and the rebuild can be done in an evening.

 

Oh, and re-read Monsterbaby's post on your crank. He is saying it probably needs some machine work done to it.

I would price this at a machine shop before I went forward.

 

Do some checking on this engine.

someone else has posted about having a generator with a 460 on it and looking it up I found some onan generators with 460s so even though it was my understanding that the 460 wasn't used in stationary industrial applications it appears that maybe I am wrong on this.

So if you can pull the pan check the crank casting number or measure the stroke. If it's about 3-1/2" 429, if it's over 3.75 it's 460 (actually stroke is 3.59 and 3.85 respectively)

 

the 460 was used for stationary industrial engines. literally thousands of them out there on everything from pumps, genarators, welders etc.
sold lots thru work up here.

Ford used the 2.3l, 300 6 cyl (my all time favourite engine in this application, virtually indestructable), the 351W and the 460 since at least the mid 80's till mid 90's when they replaced the 460 with the V10 and the 300 with the 5.4 for insudtrial applications. last i heard Ford was dropping their industrial engine line all together, but i can't say for 100% if this is true or not.

rgds
Mike