I spent some time this weekend pulling apart my daughters truck and need some help breaking the numbers down.

The vin is F11YK795582

The door tag reads,
Wb 129
Color M
? F1
? 10
? B81
? A
? A9
Weight 5600
Hp 172
Rpm 4000
? 738016

The transfer case is a Dana model 21.

The current motor is supposed to be a 428 cobra jet. I am trying to determine if it actually is.
There is a casting # of 105 on it.
The freeze plugs have EPC82 1 3/4
Casting date 4M5
I found some other numbers also, D3TE - 1, 203, D2TEAA.
Do any of these verify the motor type?

I have no idea what transmission it is. It is a four speed on the floor with a number on the side, C - 96391 N. It has a logo that looks like a sprocket with ND or NP inside it.

I have another truck that I'm still trying to get all the numbers off of.

 

I hope I'm not requesting too much at one time? I didn't realize I was asking so much until I reread it.

 

Hello,

F(11) = F100 4x4 half ton.... if it was F26 it would be a f250 4x4.
F11(Y) = 352 V8 engine.
F11Y(K) = built in Kansas City.
F11YK(795582) = consecutive unit number.

WB 129 = wheel base 129 inches.
Color M = Wembledon White
F1 = 4x4 model
10 = ? (I think it's part of the F1)... like F110.
B81 = Custom Cab.
A = New Process 435 4 speed trans (thats what the NP on the trans stands for.
A9 = rear end, ford 9 inch 3.25 to 1 gears (in a 4x4?) not 100% sure

738016 = the DSO # 73 = Salt Lake City (where the truck was orderd from)? Bill the Number Dummy will have to chime in on that.

did the best i could for ya!

Good luck with the truck.

 

Thanks Bill. I actually picked this truck up in Arizona.

The rear end is a Dana 60 or 80(?). The number was hard to make out and I'm not sure I've ever heard of a 80.
The ratio on the tag is 3.54 front and back.
I can't tell what the front end is. I'll see if I can get some more numbers later.

 

does the truck have 5 lugs or 8 lugs? Dana 44 could have 5 but dana 60 would have 8 lugs.

 

The Ford Fe series engines cannot be truly identified by the casting numbers, although they can help narrow things down a bit, but you truly need the bore and stroke to know for sure. The Same basic block was used for most of the FE series, although their are some exceptions, ie; side oiler and CJ a true CJ will have cross bolted mains bearing caps, which will have the bolt heads on the bottom half of the block exterior, just below where your Freeze plugs are. All FE use the same freeze plugs. determining the stroke is a very good start, and can be done with a dowel through the spark plug hole. removean easily accessed spark plug such as the number 1 or 5 HAND crank the engine (do not use the starter) to get that piston to top dead center... the top of the strokeput the dowel in and mark the dowel where it meets the plug threads, then crank teh engine until the piston bottoms out (lowest Point, and mark the dowel in exactly the same way. Measure the difference and that will give you the stroke. The 428 and the 410 both share the 3.98 in stroke, the 390, 406 and 427 share the 3.78 stroke, and the 332 and 352 share the 3.50 stroke. This is a quick way to narrow it down. I have a 352, and the casting numbers on the block for it, were also used on some of the 428's also. The stroke is a good indicator of the displacement.. that is at least a start... Vin Numbers are great as long as no one has ever done an engine swap on you! If it has been swapped then you are guessing in the dark. Most FE engines have 352 cast on the front of the block, on the left drivers side, if you can get the casting numbers off of the block it will help narrow things down a bit , but the bore and stroke tell the truth! Casting number are on the side of the block and should be on the right front side of the block about 4 inches above the oil pan, it will be something like a C6ME A for example..

 

Bill, the pumpkin definitely has a 60 or 80 stamped on the bottom right. It is a 5 lug wheel though, so I'm stumped.

Jet, I believe the number you are referring to is the D3TE-1 on the block above the oil pan.

 

sorry yes I saw that later....yes that would be the one!

<TABLE style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=1 cellSpacing=0 borderColor=#111111 cellPadding=2 width="98%"><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#fae9d1 rowSpan=3 width=49>D3TE-1</TD><TD width=185>'?? 359, 361, 389, & 391 c.i.d.</TD><TD>Reinforcement Webs</TD></TR><TR><TD width=185>'?? 330MD c.i.d.</TD><TD>Medium Duty Truck, Reinforcement Webs</TD></TR><TR><TD width=185>'73-'76 360 & 390 c.i.d.</TD><TD>Some Have "SPECIAL" Cast Below Number</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

this is a quick list of possibles you can go to

Reading Casting Numbers

or to

Ford FE Engine Block Casting Numbers - FORDification.com

which might help you out a bit

 

F11 = F100 4WD

Y = 352 2V

K = Kansas City MO Assembly Plant.

795582 = 1966, assembled December 1965.

129" Wheelbase.

M = Wimbledon White.

F110 = F100 4WD, 5,600 lbs. GVWR

B81: B = Medium Blue Crush Vinyl & Medium Blue Cody Pattern Woven Plastic // 81 = 81B Custom Cab.

A = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

A9 = Dana 60.2 Rear Axle / 3.54-1 / Limited Slip / 3,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity. *

5,600 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

172 net HP @ 4,000 RPM

738016:

73 = Salt Lake City UT Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

8016 = Domestic Special Order number. The truck was special ordered by the original purchaser, not "bought off the lot."

360/390 blocks are the same, the bore is 4.05" .. only the stroke is different.

360 = 3.50" / 390 = 3.78"

Last year for FE engines in Passenger Cars: 1971 (390 only). No 428's after 1970 and were only installed in 1966/70 Passenger Cars.

* If optional Limited Slip was ordered, FoMoCo usually installed the Dana 44. The 5 lug 5.50" bolt circle Dana 60.2 was an option over the 44. This is not a Dana 60.

Dana 60.2's (1963/66) and Dana 60.3's (1966/69-5 lug 5.50") were only installed in F100's / 8 lug 6.50" bolt circle Dana 60 Rear Axle: 1953/85 F250; 1975/87 E250; 1979/84 F350 4WD

The Ford 9" was not available in F100's with Limited Slip until mid-year 1968.

btw: These truck were rare...even when brand new. 1966 F100 4WD production figures: Cab & Chassis: 145 / Flareside Pickup: 839 / Styleside Pickup: 4,439.

 

Hey there Gun nutz im working on a 65 F100 4x4 myself. Would like to see yours. Post some pics for us if you can thanks. Are you doing a restore or just getting it repaired and road worthy.

 

Hey Mister Wilson!

A9 = Dana 60.2 Rear Axle 3.54-1 w/Limited Slip. The Dana 60.2 is not a Dana 60. See post #9 for more info on the Dana 60.2.

AXLE 07 = 1957/65 Ford 9" 3.25-1 w/o Limited Slip.

AXLE 17 = 1966/86 Ford 9" 3.25-1 w/o Limited Slip.

1959 thru today: If the AXLE code begins with a letter: Limited Slip. If with a number, no Limited Slip.

 

Thank You for the correction, Bill... i was going by my own 66 f100 which has an Axle code of A9 and it's a 9 inch w/3.25 to 1 gears, i guess someone swaped it over to what it has now because it's not a dana 60.2

 

Nothing indicates it is an actual 428CJ, however, the motor may have been built up to/with 428 internals, of course you will have to dig into the motor checking crank/stroke/cylinder bore to find this out...
--Mike

 

Mike, thanks for the insight on the motor. Out of everything else being incorrect about the truck from the initial ad, it doesn't surprise me that it may be a 390 instead. I have plans to take the motor apart and have everything checked out before i install it into my shortbed.


Number Dummy, Thanks for all the info. You sir are a true gold mine of Ford Truck knowledge. Are the Dana 60.2(3) rear ends any good? I've never heard of them before.

 

Buzz, Here are a few pics for now.



Edit: Sorry for the additional truck in the photo. My wife took the pics and thinks her truck needs to be in all of them too.