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Gauges
Finally addressed gauges as preached here... 
not that I felt a need for it.... just 159 for a Scangauge II and this thing measures everything but EGT's ....
Really like it in that it is unobtrusive and doesn't advertise "Come steal me" ...
verified my truck is running as I thought it was purr-fect !
not that I felt a need for it.... just 159 for a Scangauge II and this thing measures everything but EGT's ....
Really like it in that it is unobtrusive and doesn't advertise "Come steal me" ...
verified my truck is running as I thought it was purr-fect !
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Since I tow fairly heavy with my Ex...having a real gauge to read trans temperatures was important to me...the OEM gauge on my '05 for trans temp WILL move but not until the temp hits greater than ~220°...a tad late IMO and you have to be watching it to notice it because it moves slowly.
See this data that someone took some time putting together:
Having a digital gauge is invaluable when towing in 105°+ temps rolling down the road at 17,000#'s combined...I think you will be happy having accurate information while you are driving...as far as EGT's...can you add a pyro sensor to the Scan Gauge?...On my Aeroforce you can add the sensor and then feed it into one of the two analog inputs they give you...not sure about the Scangauge though.
Good luck!
Joe.
See this data that someone took some time putting together:
Having a digital gauge is invaluable when towing in 105°+ temps rolling down the road at 17,000#'s combined...I think you will be happy having accurate information while you are driving...as far as EGT's...can you add a pyro sensor to the Scan Gauge?...On my Aeroforce you can add the sensor and then feed it into one of the two analog inputs they give you...not sure about the Scangauge though.
Good luck!
Joe.
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The 230 degree picture was exactly what I saw on mine when I towed my trailer last summer in the 100 degree day going up some grades and switchback. That was the first time I ever saw it move above the 100-220 point. I pulled over to let it cool off. Since I had bought the Ex in summer of 2009, that gauge never moved from that position (except when I turned off the engine). I thought I had a bad sending unit until when winter came around and it actually dropped.
It was from the advice of this forum that I went ahead and purchased the Scangauge2. Now I can see what's going on with the transmission temp.
It was from the advice of this forum that I went ahead and purchased the Scangauge2. Now I can see what's going on with the transmission temp.
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Before I got my Aeroforce gauge...I marked the plastic on my gauge panel with a white grease pencil where the "normal" spot was for my gauges...you can see in the upper right hand corner of the gauge panel in this picture the "white" mark I put on my panel...you can also see a mark on the upper left for the oil pressure...this way at a "glance" I could see if the gauge had moved...it was a good quick and easy solution for me until I got the digital gauge...I found this a very easy visual check when driving...you mark the mark where the needle normally is and you view it as driving...so each driver would have a slightly different "angle" or "view"...but since I'm the only one that drives while towing...it works well...
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Honestly, not, nor never been, overly concerned since I maintain the truck well,
and rarely push it to the limit for too long - just got the sg "just because"
Since I dunno all the features yet of the SG2, not sure about egt's.... although it has an EGR and EBP gauge set...
but feel comfortable egt's have not been a problem thus far since I put the Walker BTM on it early on,
others that did registered a 200 degree drop in egt's with just that change...
IIRC, did see TFF @ 135 running sans towing while running around a lot yesterday ...
and think that is Trans Temp....
since I now have a way to measure,
will be searching what are norms for all these gauge readings...
measuring is no good if'n you don't know how "bad" is defined
and rarely push it to the limit for too long - just got the sg "just because"
Since I dunno all the features yet of the SG2, not sure about egt's.... although it has an EGR and EBP gauge set...
but feel comfortable egt's have not been a problem thus far since I put the Walker BTM on it early on,
others that did registered a 200 degree drop in egt's with just that change...
IIRC, did see TFF @ 135 running sans towing while running around a lot yesterday ...
and think that is Trans Temp....
since I now have a way to measure,
will be searching what are norms for all these gauge readings...
measuring is no good if'n you don't know how "bad" is defined
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Hey X - good idea for starters !
and given your login name - I smoked a hemi yesterday - thought he was hot stuff trying to weave thru traffic - at the next lite he calmed down when we were side by side and I eased off the line and gave just a lil spurt to catch him...!
and given your login name - I smoked a hemi yesterday - thought he was hot stuff trying to weave thru traffic - at the next lite he calmed down when we were side by side and I eased off the line and gave just a lil spurt to catch him...!
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SGII doesn't have any analog inputs, so you can't get EGT or fuel pressure displayed on it.
As far as the TS tranny goes, it'll pull all day long at 220*, and can be operated for as much as 30 mins at 250*. It has an internal thermostat set at around 165*, so anything over that means you're putting some heat into it.
For 6.0's, ICP should read around 640psi, and IPR should be about 22% at idle, once you're up to operating temp. Those values will be higher while the motor's warming up. These numbers are valuable to monitor the state of your HPO system.
Comparing EOT and fWT can help you monitor the state of your oil cooler. If you have an EGR cooler still, this can help you avoid the chain of events that eventually lead to head gasket replacement. A spread of more than 15* means the oil cooler is getting clogged and losing efficiency.
Keeping an eye on voltage will help you monitor your battery and charging status, which can help you save your FICM from being fried.
I've had a SGII on my rig for almost 6 years, and it's the best bang for the buck monitor available.
As far as the TS tranny goes, it'll pull all day long at 220*, and can be operated for as much as 30 mins at 250*. It has an internal thermostat set at around 165*, so anything over that means you're putting some heat into it.
For 6.0's, ICP should read around 640psi, and IPR should be about 22% at idle, once you're up to operating temp. Those values will be higher while the motor's warming up. These numbers are valuable to monitor the state of your HPO system.
Comparing EOT and fWT can help you monitor the state of your oil cooler. If you have an EGR cooler still, this can help you avoid the chain of events that eventually lead to head gasket replacement. A spread of more than 15* means the oil cooler is getting clogged and losing efficiency.
Keeping an eye on voltage will help you monitor your battery and charging status, which can help you save your FICM from being fried.
I've had a SGII on my rig for almost 6 years, and it's the best bang for the buck monitor available.
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Thanks for the ranges william...
just 1st day checks yesterday:
my ICP around 590 @ idle and IPR about 21.4
may not have been warmed up though - i'll take a peek next time I go out..
or does it gather any history min and max readings ?
just 1st day checks yesterday:
my ICP around 590 @ idle and IPR about 21.4
may not have been warmed up though - i'll take a peek next time I go out..
or does it gather any history min and max readings ?
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Those are good numbers, John.
You can program it to record max readings for the preset gauges, but not the XGauges AFAIK. The max can be set to show for each key cycle, day, or even longer. For instance, I programmed an XGauge to display the max fWT during the day. I check this after towing in case I missed a water temp spike while towing. Programming details are all in the manual. I'll post that code if i can find it.
You can program it to record max readings for the preset gauges, but not the XGauges AFAIK. The max can be set to show for each key cycle, day, or even longer. For instance, I programmed an XGauge to display the max fWT during the day. I check this after towing in case I missed a water temp spike while towing. Programming details are all in the manual. I'll post that code if i can find it.
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