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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Im wondering if maybe the cps or something went out and it just so happened to be when you were low on fuel. The reason I say that is you said your fuel bowl was full. Have you checked pressure at the schrader valve while cranking?
I was wondering that too, hoping that's not the case. I've had the CPS go out on it before and it would restart immediately, this wouldn't restart at all so I didn't think it was that, but maybe. I havent checked the pressure yet.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by B Big
You might want to check fuse #22 in the under the hood fuse box.

If you can't get a charger on the truck with the batteries in it, then pull the batteries out, they need to be fully charged. A jump start probably won't get ya going. You will need to have the batteries up to get the engine spinning fast enough to build up compression to fire. Then figure ya got to get the injectors to purge the air out before it will fire. Make sure you fully charge up BOTH batteries.
Also it is VERY hard on the starter to turn over the engine with low voltage to it.

Don't cut corners, you will pay for it later.

Yeah, I just decided to pull the batteries out and charge them inside.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Neal 97 250
When you said you prime it a few times, what do you mean?
Do not use starting fluid or ether! The glow plugs will ignite it and boom.
Just get a good charge on them then turn it over for a while. It will start soon enough.

Also I know you said your fuel bowl is full. But if it is full then you are about to get it started unless you have other issues.
When I say prime I mean I turn me key to "wait to start" position for 10-20 seconds, then off and then repeat. I've read that that's what you are supposed to do. It sounded so close to turning over before the batteries would die. Both batteries are charging right now, I'm going to try it in the morning and see how things go. Also I haven't used and starting fluid or ether, dont worry. I've heard of people spraying WD40 in their intakes, but I've also heard some people say not to do that. I havent tried that either.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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Turning the key on doesn't do anything as this is not electric fuel. It just warms up the cylinders from the glow plugs. But with that said, get the batts charged up and I bet it will fire up.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Alright, yeah I was skeptical of that too, I didnt think it was electronic fuel injection, but a friend told me I should try it.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 09:35 PM
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If you have an electric golf cart handy you can hook up the jumper cables so that three of the 6 volt batteries are supplying juice. That's 18 volts. I did this just the other day and it works great... but I know, I know.. how many folks have an electric cart handy.

And just thought I'd clarify. The fuel pump is a manual pump that works off of the engine. That's why it takes a lot of cranking... and sometimes by the time you get fuel flowing, the engine is turning over so slow due to weak batteries that it won't fire. I know from experience
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Two fully charged batteries and a couple of cranks later and I got her going. As always, thanks guys for the tips and advice. Like I said, rookie diesel mistake that I will not let happen again, what a nightmare.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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Good to hear. All of us do stupid crap sometimes. It happens.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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So as I said it started up just fine and ran great all afternoon. I ran a bunch of errands yesterday and it started no problem everytime. Then this morning I go to start it and it wouldnt start. It was very similar to how it was acting when I ran out of fuel, when I would crank it sounded like no fuel was getting it. Twice it caught and immediately shut off and then I couldn't get it to start at all. I was wondering if perhaps my fuel pump is bad? I checked the fuel filter and it was completely full of fuel. As stated before my batteries arent in tip top shape, but the engine was cranking, it just wouldnt catch. Any ideas what could be going on?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 06:55 AM
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These trucks really need to be spinning over good to fire. It may be time for batteries. Have you checked your fuel pressure?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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I havent checked the fuel line pressure yet, I was planning on doing that this afternoon. I have a mechanic friend coming over to help me, but could someone explain how to do it? If I understand it correctly I check the low pressure side, but bleed out of the high pressure side? Correct, close to correct or completely wrong? haha, thanks
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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There is a schrader valve on the side of the fuel pressure regulator, check it while cranking with a fuel gauge or tire gauge if you don't have a fuel gauge. Hope your batteries are charged up. Don't need to crank long. I'll get a pic for you

 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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Thanks so much for the picture fordman, that was a big help. So we checked the lines and they seemed good, fuel bowl was still full, batteries were charged so we were pretty stumped. After a while my mechanic buddy who was helping me decided to try a shot of starting fluid. I've always read not to use starting fluid on these trucks, but he said they use it on their powerstroke tow trucks at work and havent had any issues. Anyway, it fired right up and ran great all night. I dont intend on using starting fluid again, but why do people suggest not using it?
 
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The starting fluids flash point is way higher than diesel fuel. The issue is contact with the hot GPs during startup could make bad stuff happen! Boom!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pjwoolw
The starting fluids flash point is way higher than diesel fuel. The issue is contact with the hot GPs during startup could make bad stuff happen! Boom!
Well I'm glad that didnt happen. Hopefully the issue is solved and I wont have to worry about this anymore.
 
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