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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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Seized Plugs

I have an 09 150 with the 5.4 and have been hearing from my buddies, with older 5.4's, that their plug changes have cost them in excess of $700 due to the plugs being stuck in the head and snapping off when the shop removes them. My question is, has Ford addressed this in the later 5.4's or should I not wait till 100k to change the plugs and do it sooner and add anti-seize to the threads?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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In late 2007 they changed the design of the heads and plugs to address this.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 12:25 AM
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Changed during Oct 07 production. If its a flex fuel 5.4L its all good.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Yep, 09 5.4 Flex Fuel. Any ideas how this was corrected? Still aluminum heads and steel plugs, right?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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The new plugs look like a 4 wheeler plug
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...n-engines.html
scroll down to third post
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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I think they changed the head design so the opening was a bit larger below the thread? The carbon buildup wouldn't be as big an issue.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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So, how does the new design prevent them from seizing in the head? I was under the impression the original problem was related to the aluminum head and steel plugs?? Was it a carbon issue?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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They changed the tip of the plug. It looks like a normal plug now.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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So how does the change in the plug design prevent seizing?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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Contact the Service Manager at your dealership for a full explaination.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Kinda defeats the idea of an open forum.


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Contact the Service Manager at your dealership for a full explaination.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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I understand; however, since no one can explain it exactly ( the same thing happened tomy buddy a month ago) the best bet is to see the Service Manager as they have it, with illustrations. Good luck!
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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The old spark plug was a 2 piece design, the elongated electrode body was threaded into the main plug. The problem was carbon would build up around the elongated part in the cylinder, making it hard to remove the plug and causing the plug to break, leaving the electrode still in the head. A special extractor tool was then used to thread into the broken piece in the head to remove it. Late in 2008, a one piece plug was used to hopefully eliminate this issue.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2011 | 01:32 AM
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champion offers a spark plug to replace the 2 piece design with a stronger one piece.havnt tried them myself or seen them being used in our shop.

have had about 4 or 5 2006+ 5.4 come in a week after they get there plugs changed due to the mechanic globbing anti seize onto the threads of the plug to "prevent" it from breaking off inside the hole.considering the tread has nothing to do with the reason they break! but back onto the topic of the anti seize,after a 100 km or so the anti seize heats up turning into liquid and seeping its way down to the electrode causing fowled plugs.nice preventable maintenance.

so DONT PUT TO MUCH ANTI SEIZE.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Thats what I was looking for! Thanks for the info and for taking the time to post it. Part of me is still leary and will likely pull a plug or two down the road and see how it goes.
 
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