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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Low Beams problem

I've got an issue going on where the low beams don't work. The parking lights and high beams and fog lights all work. The fuses are all good. This happened about 3 months ago for a few minutes until I hit a pretty good bump on the road and the lowbeams came back on. Today they went out again. Any suggestions on where to look would be much appreciated.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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low beams and high beams are separate circuits IIRC. Might be a bad relay or loose wire for the low beam circuit. Check behind the drivers side headlight for the harness plug and/or ground. You might also check the owners manual to see if there are separate fuses for the low beams and high beams or if they're relay controlled somehow.

It's been a while since I messed with them and I have an HID kit so I don't remember exactly how the wiring hooks up anymore.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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low beams and high beams are separate circuits IIRC. Might be a bad relay or loose wire for the low beam circuit. Check behind the drivers side headlight for the harness plug and/or ground. You might also check the owners manual to see if there are separate fuses for the low beams and high beams or if they're relay controlled somehow.

It's been a while since I messed with them and I have an HID kit so I don't remember exactly how the wiring hooks up anymore.
Low beams have separate fuses from high beams and also left and right have their own fuses. I didn't see anything in the owner's manual about headlight relay. the connections are good at the headlights.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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I don't know if these will help. There aren't any relays. If it's not one of the fuses, then it pretty much has to be the multi-function switch.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Thanks to dchamberlain! It was the MFS. I picked up a new one, and 20 minutes later the lowbeams are working.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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Hey folks, This is a old post, but in searching to find a solution, this post is the closest to finding what might be my problem.

What is the MFS and where is it? Is this inside the steering column?

I have HID kit installed. I connected a normal headlight bulb to one of the connectors and same results....no low beam, only high beam.

So bypassing the HID's says they are not the issue.
Checked each and every fuse. Switch back and forth trying to see if any intermittent issue. Moved all wiring around shaking, ect. No intermittent results.

So, thinking this is this MFS, but not sure where to begin with it. I need to travel tomorrow night and would really love to have this fixed so I don't blind everyone on high beams.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertH
Hey folks, This is a old post, but in searching to find a solution, this post is the closest to finding what might be my problem.

What is the MFS and where is it? Is this inside the steering column?

I have HID kit installed. I connected a normal headlight bulb to one of the connectors and same results....no low beam, only high beam.

So bypassing the HID's says they are not the issue.
Checked each and every fuse. Switch back and forth trying to see if any intermittent issue. Moved all wiring around shaking, ect. No intermittent results.

So, thinking this is this MFS, but not sure where to begin with it. I need to travel tomorrow night and would really love to have this fixed so I don't blind everyone on high beams.
Multi Function Switch located on the column. The one that flashes and turns on the high beams.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2014 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertH
Hey folks, This is a old post, but in searching to find a solution, this post is the closest to finding what might be my problem.

What is the MFS and where is it? Is this inside the steering column?
I'm fairly certain the Multi Function Switch (MFS) is your blinker stock on the left side of the steering wheel column. There is four screws on the underside of the column that you'll need to remove...as well as the small lever for the tilt wheel to get the covers off. I've found that lowering the wheel all the way before pulling the covers make it easier to get the top half off.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 06:32 AM
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Thanks for feedback! I will try to locate one today from Ford. Sounds fairly easy to replace. Will report back if this fixes the issue as I had found lots of posts in search and lots of suggestions but OP never did come back and close out what the fix was.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 08:06 AM
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You did check to see if the bulb socket was plugged in?
I hate to say that because I am going to tell an embarresing story. Many years ago the shop I was at at the time had a car with that problem, had all the bells and whistles DRL; Delayed Head lamps etc.
Three of us wound up working on it checked everything couldn't find a problem. Dang near a hundred years combined experience. The guy that sweeps the floor walked by and asked did ya check the bulbs.
Sure enough some how the sockets had worked loose and the bulbs could get no power.
Once the shop forman could quit laughing his **** off,he chewed us out and for a week everytime he would walk out into the shop he would holler " Master Mechanics my Assss". Wasn't nothin we could say but hang our heads LOL.
Just goes to show sometimes no matter how experienced you are it can be the simplest thing to bite ya in the buttt.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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I hear ya....

In my original post above, I mentioned plugging up a new bulb to the socket and same results. This bypasses the HID kit and is the original plug socket that would still work.

One of the 2 local ford dealers has one MFS in stock so will pick it up at noon after I get off work and hopefully can get this resolved before dark and my trip tonight.

Years ago, my son in law was working on his explorer in my garage. It would not start. We tried everything we knew. Towed it to Ford. Guy put a fuse in the fuse panel and it fired right up. He claimed he did not remove the fuse...hmm. No idea on that one, but if there is no fuse in the location, it could not be tested. Who would know it was missing and how.....duh.....no one knows.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 06:56 AM
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Ok, I replaced the Multi Function switch. Did not fix. Left it in since there was some reference to a recall so figured sooner or later it might fail. So eating that cost.

Tried a new headlight switch. Did not fix.

Removed battery to get to wiring. Backed out the HID kit to find the original factory wiring and plugs. Realized 12 years ago I had put in the APC heavy duty wire harness which as I traced back, it has 2 relays. Bypassed back to factory plugs and low beams working! YEAH!

Tried to switch the relays, but low beams would not work with the harness, so since I am now using HID's, I really don't need the heavy duty harness. Hooked the HID's back up and all good now!

It appears there was some corrosion in the relay plug area that might be the culprit.

Thanks for feedback and glad to get this resolved!
 
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