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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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2011 Rollover Rating

Does anyone know how the 2011 holds up compared to a 2008-10 in a roll over? I see the 2011's are rated 3 stars but previously they were not rated. Does that make the 2011 better or is it the same just that Ford finally started putting the ratings on the window stickers?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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I can't help with cab strength but the trucks do now have side airbag protection. There is a sticker above the door on the roof liner and there is also a piece of fabric on the side of the seat indicating this.

This could have been a reason (one of) why a rating was published.
 
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Yeah. I thought of that too. The side-curtain airbags probably go to boost the rating a bit. But, that may not be any indication of structural integrity with 8500lbs of truck pushing from the wrong side.

Having survived a recent roll over in my 2010 F250 I would be curious if anyone from Ford has some words to say on this matter, or anyone else "in the know". Not that I ever care to repeat my experience, but if nothing else I would appreciate piece-of-mind, if there is such a thing, if this were to ever happen again.

I think I discovered the one weak-link of the Super Duty - put the tires on the wrong side of the frame and theres not a whole lot left of the truck.
 
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I was going to point this out in your other thread, but I never got around to it.

One thing to remember when comparing a 2011 against your 2010 is that the 2011 has electronic stability control standard. This detects a skid through various sensors and actively works to control the skid.

For example in a fishtail scenario the truck will brake the outside wheels in the skid to regain control. I've seen this type of system in action on my truck as well as a couple of my wife's cars.

It's effective enough that I'm pretty confident had you been in a 2011 you wouldn't have rolled it. It's that good.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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Tom,

Interesting point...I thought the stability control was only for trailer towing

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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 06:59 AM
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Tom,

Interesting point...I thought the stability control was only for trailer towing

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Hi Rick,

Check pages 267-271 of your owner's guide. Here's the quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Owner's Guide
ADVANCETRAC WITH ROLL STABILITY CONTROL™ (RSC)
STABILITY ENHANCEMENT SYSTEM (ALL SINGLE REAR WHEEL
(SRW) VEHICLES)
The AdvanceTrac with RSC system provides the following stability
enhancement features for certain driving situations:
• Traction control system (TCS), which functions to help avoid
drive-wheel spin and loss of traction.
• Electronic stability control (ESC), which functions to help avoid skids
or lateral slides.
• Roll Stability Control™ (RSC), which functions to help avoid a
vehicle roll-over.

The AdvanceTrac with RSC system automatically enables each time
the engine is started. All features of the AdvanceTrac with RSC system
(TCS, ESC, and RSC) are active and monitor the vehicle from start-up.
However, the system will only intervene if the driving situation requires
it.

............................................


Electronic stability control (ESC)
Electronic stability control (ESC) may enhance your vehicle’s directional
stability during adverse maneuvers, for example when cornering severely
or avoiding objects in the roadway. ESC operates by applying brakes to
one or more of the wheels individually and, if necessary, reducing engine
power if the system detects that the vehicle is about to skid or slide
laterally.
During ESC events, the stability control light in the instrument cluster
will flash.
Certain adverse driving maneuvers may activate the ESC system, which
include but are not limited to:
• Taking a turn too fast
• Maneuvering quickly to avoid an accident, pedestrian or obstacle
• Driving over a patch of ice or other slippery surfaces
• Changing lanes on a snow-rutted road
• Entering a snow-free road from a snow-covered side street, or vice
versa
• Entering a paved road from a gravel road, or vice versa
• Cornering while towing a heavily loaded trailer (refer to Trailer
towing in the Tires, Wheels and Loading chapter).
The ESC system may be deactivated in certain situations. See the
Switching off AdvanceTrac with RSC section following
 
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WOW. Thanks for the info Tom.
 
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Now I know why I can not do donuts on the ice...I thought I was getting old and lost my touch...
 
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Not that I would ever want to re-do what I went through, maybe I shouldn't even look back at what happened and just move on, but that description of the Advancetrac really has me wondering what would have happened had my truck been equipped with it. Ice is very scary. The worst of it is when you don't anticipate it being there and it just pops up. By the time you hit the ice it could be too late to do anything about it.

Making a 2011 work, money wise, is going to take some work but looking at the side airbags and the traction control stuff that alone, in my mind, makes up for the expense. I'll have to really play the game here and see where I land. I can't handle a $600/month payment. I'll see where I can get it to. You only live once. I'm still here, so why not?
 
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Originally Posted by KC8QVO
Does anyone know how the 2011 holds up compared to a 2008-10 in a roll over? I see the 2011's are rated 3 stars but previously they were not rated. Does that make the 2011 better or is it the same just that Ford finally started putting the ratings on the window stickers?
Others may know different, but, from what I can tell, the cabs themselves appear to be identical to earlier trucks. A lot of interior components--consoles, headliners, etc.--have changed, but structurally it looks the same.
 
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one reason I bought a dually is I figured it would be harder to roll over
 
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Originally Posted by jfritz_drfritz
one reason I bought a dually is I figured it would be harder to roll over
If you drop it off the road where mine was that would go tumbling over too. Heck, even if I just coasted off the road I would still have rolled. Ditches scare me.

On flat ground a DRW is more stable - and they're great towing platforms. Throw a steep drop off and a ditch in the mix and anything will roll.
 
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Originally Posted by rickatic
Now I know why I can not do donuts on the ice...I thought I was getting old and lost my touch...
If you hold down the traction control button for around 5 seconds (the TC light will flash) it turns off all three safety systems (RSC, ESC, TCS).
Under 35 MPH.
Maybe try then? lol.

I have only driven my truck with the TC off (simply pushing the button).

I tipped over my '98 Explorer 5 or 6 years ago in a ditch.
That was easier to do than I expected.
I don't call it a roll because I came to a stop in the ditch, then in slow motion (seemed like it) a second or two later it decided to tip over on the left side.
 
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