i dont think they care cuz china will buy what we dont....i hate politics

 

ya but do you know what that would do to our country nothing would move if you have it it was trucked our economy would go to **** fast

 

i know all about the truckers side of it. i come from a family full of truck drivers. my dad, brother, uncles, grand fathers, cousins, ect.... i didnt go into it because of the uncertainty with diesal prices and elevated truck maintanence costs....these guys tried the park them 4 a day method and not enoiugh people care to do it....my uncles parked there trucks 4 one day and it got no attention, there is always someone else who dont care and is ready to step in and take the loads. the idea is pointless with out unifacation from drivers, owners and the companies that need goods moved

 

Not really O/T, but fuel-related all the same, for the first time in the life of my mortgage (19 years into it) my home heating oil bill has EXCEEDED what I pay on my home's note! This is pretty dangerous in more than a few ways. First of all, how many of us can afford to buy 2 homes and pay on them simultaneously? I'd guess not many. What your left with after the second payment (heating bill) is nothing. Its just another bill-a whopper, but its still just a bill. I'm reading articles on how people are trying to cope & its actually both frightening and sad. A girl I work with has her own apt. and lives alone. She told me that last week her entire paycheck went to her heating bill and even that wasn't enough. Mind you, that means no food, gas , clothes or any other ''luxury''. Just on heating oil.
I don't know about you guys, but this actually makes me madder & madder when I see this crap taking place. Something has to break, hopefully soon. Lets take the power to make us all a lot poorer out of the middle east's hands and at least drill domestically. It aint perfect, but for now that the best I can come up with.
Roger

 

we go through a tank per 6 weeks during the winter, luckly we dont use our furnace during the 3 warm months we have a year. i dont know how people do it either....the one thing that gets me more is how drug addicts and alcoholics smokers and so on can make it... i have no habits nor does my wife, and we have a hard time...we both work to by the way and have pretty good jobs to boot. its just frusterating on that note.... oil prices up here are at 3.40 a gal for kerosene which i have to use...

 

I think we found the problem.

I have not looked at the costs involved, but it might be the right time to consider changing fuels. You might find that the conversion will pay for itself rather quickly if you are paying that much for heating. In MN, with a drafty, 50 year old house. For example my Natural Gasbill is about $110-120 per month in the winter, and thats being used for cooking too.

 

interestingly enough, im converting my water system to a renai system this spring. it will cut my cmp bill in half. i am considering the same thing for my furnace.

 

I found info about the tankless water heater but nothing about furnaces. I'm curious what you have in mind about the furnace system. I have a duct heater system that is less expensive than running a gas furnace but it can still run my electric bill to nearly $200/mo in the dead of winter.

 

they make a furnace that runs off propane. i built a house 4 a guy who had it put in his place, but i cant find any info online either... weird.. but im def getting away from the electric hotwater tank.....damn i hijacked my own thread again...