Chinese ammo
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Chinese ammo
A guy came into the police department the other day to ask a favor.
He had a S&W 629 (.44 Mag) that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range.
He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new ammo, (Chinese made), and the
gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash.
When the tweety birds cleared from around his head, the pictures show what he saw.
Bet he never uses Chinese made ammo again!
Looks like when the round in the chamber went off, it also set off at least two other
rounds in adjacent cylinders.
I would have hated to been the one that pulled the trigger on that one!
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...aed11ada-1.jpg
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...2daed11ada.jpg
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...aed11ada-2.jpg
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...aed11ada-3.jpg
He had a S&W 629 (.44 Mag) that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range.
He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new ammo, (Chinese made), and the
gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash.
When the tweety birds cleared from around his head, the pictures show what he saw.
Bet he never uses Chinese made ammo again!
Looks like when the round in the chamber went off, it also set off at least two other
rounds in adjacent cylinders.
I would have hated to been the one that pulled the trigger on that one!
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...aed11ada-1.jpg
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...2daed11ada.jpg
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...aed11ada-2.jpg
http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...aed11ada-3.jpg
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He sure got a bang out of that. Man he was lucky he didn't get killed. But I wonder was it all the blame of the ammo or could of that cylinder had a flaw or been dropped & had a hair line crack?
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My thoughts exactly.
Double charge of bullseye or similar fast powder?
Just another reason to keep loading density nearer 100%
Double charge of bullseye or similar fast powder?
Just another reason to keep loading density nearer 100%
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I bet the people at S&W would like to see that.
He is lucky to be alive, but I would like to hear more of the story.
I have had pretty good luck with Norinco (Chinese) ammo in 7.62x39 and .223, I did not even know they offered .44 mag........I think I will avoid it in that caliber.
He is lucky to be alive, but I would like to hear more of the story.
I have had pretty good luck with Norinco (Chinese) ammo in 7.62x39 and .223, I did not even know they offered .44 mag........I think I will avoid it in that caliber.
Logistics Pro
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Blew the top strap off of his Ruger Blackhawk and turned the cylinder into a 'grenade'!
Fortunately, we have a MANDATORY policy of Eye and Ear protection on our range.
He showed up at a monthly meeting, with the pieces of his Blackhawk folded up, in a shop rag.
pedant
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AA #9 is my magnum powder of choice these days Keith.
Even with a progressive reloader (RL550-B) I would notice a double charge.
.45 practice rounds that I used to pump out by the thousands are the only time I've ever made that mistake (once)
I used to go through perhaps 500 a week.
Not a high pressure load by any means, and fortunately my Sig P220 took it in stride.
I now lock the door when I am reloading so I can't be distracted.
Even with a progressive reloader (RL550-B) I would notice a double charge.
.45 practice rounds that I used to pump out by the thousands are the only time I've ever made that mistake (once)
I used to go through perhaps 500 a week.
Not a high pressure load by any means, and fortunately my Sig P220 took it in stride.
I now lock the door when I am reloading so I can't be distracted.
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Jim,
The only time I've 'messed up' (knock wood) reloading, was .30-'06 "Match" loads, when I was shooting High Power Rifle.
I was in the Standing Stage, single loading, and I dropped a round into the chamber of my M1 Garand, and raised the rifle and when the sight pictured 'looked right', squeezed the trigger.
"Pop!"
Huh!?!?!?!!? I waited a few seconds, and pulled the op-rod back, and out came the brass with a bullet still inside it.
Primer was fired.
I put the cartridge in my jeans pocket and took it home.
Pulled the bullet. . . . . NO powder!!
I was really lucky, that day.
The only thing I can attribute that to, is "Braincramps". I wasn't paying attention.
Back on track. . . . my 'magnum' powder of choice is 2400. I still have a quantity of the old 'Hercules' powder onhand. None of my containers say 'Alliant', yet.
H-110 and W-296 'peak' too fast for me. No thanks. Don't need rocket fuel.
The only time I've 'messed up' (knock wood) reloading, was .30-'06 "Match" loads, when I was shooting High Power Rifle.
I was in the Standing Stage, single loading, and I dropped a round into the chamber of my M1 Garand, and raised the rifle and when the sight pictured 'looked right', squeezed the trigger.
"Pop!"
Huh!?!?!?!!? I waited a few seconds, and pulled the op-rod back, and out came the brass with a bullet still inside it.
Primer was fired.
I put the cartridge in my jeans pocket and took it home.
Pulled the bullet. . . . . NO powder!!
I was really lucky, that day.
The only thing I can attribute that to, is "Braincramps". I wasn't paying attention.
Back on track. . . . my 'magnum' powder of choice is 2400. I still have a quantity of the old 'Hercules' powder onhand. None of my containers say 'Alliant', yet.
H-110 and W-296 'peak' too fast for me. No thanks. Don't need rocket fuel.
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I've used the Chinese ammo in my 9mm, and I may have bought some for the ak47, and the sks's. I never had a problem with it other then being a little dirty. Those 44 mag rounds must have been hotter then hell to do that to a 629. I have a 629 with a 6 inch barrel. I don't think I will be buying any Chinese ammo for it any time soon. If they were reloads, someone needs to tell the reloader that all powders are not created equal. Just because you can use x amount of grains with one powder, doesn't mean you can do the same with another. I would say that the guy was lucky he only got a gash on his forehead.
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A quick search on google shows that most people are thinking this is a result of reloading and incorrect powder charge... 
I don't know of too much Chinese ammo to be honest...except some milsurp, and calibers already mentioned that they actually use over there (like 9mm and 7.62x39). Most "cheap" ammo on the market today is steel case, and made in Russia.
I don't know of too much Chinese ammo to be honest...except some milsurp, and calibers already mentioned that they actually use over there (like 9mm and 7.62x39). Most "cheap" ammo on the market today is steel case, and made in Russia.
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Well, going to the link on the shooting forum I noticed that one of the guys said he thought it might have been faked since there seems to have been only 3 rounds in the gun. If you look at the pictures, it's true.
Now who shoots at the range with only 3 rounds. I know my range had a rule that stated that you can only load 5 rounds in a revolver so that the hammer rests on the empty chamber but firing with 3 rounds sounds odd to me.
I've also fired Chinese rounds 1000's of times and also reloaded from them without any trouble at all.
I'd agree it's either the owners own reloading mistake or a fake of some sort. OR the jacka** did it on purpose (Kinda like those silly jacka** movies)