2000 excursion 5.9 coversion
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You will need to be an electrical engineer or a very good electrical technician to do the commonrail......I think the 12V or 24V will be the easiest.
The guy on the second link that did a commonrail is an actual electrical engineer
Cummins in an Excursion - TheDieselGarage.com
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/d...e-t176490.html
The guy on the second link that did a commonrail is an actual electrical engineer
Cummins in an Excursion - TheDieselGarage.com
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/d...e-t176490.html
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I just started looking into this very thing for my 2000 X with a 5.4L. I contacted two diesel shops in Ohio and the Fordcummins.com in Montana. I would need someone to do the work as I am unable. The general quote they gave me was $5K for parts, $5K for labor and $5K for an engine from them ($15 grand ballpark). Fordcummins.com said I could probably find a wrecked truck with a cummins diesel for less than $5k and have it sent to them. They said the difference between the common rail and other is that common rail would be quieter. Ebay has several cummins motors for sale. All in all, the $15,000 price tag makes it out of my reach for now. If anyone else knows of shop near OH that could do it for cheaper, please chime in.
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I just started looking into this very thing for my 2000 X with a 5.4L. I contacted two diesel shops in Ohio and the Fordcummins.com in Montana. I would need someone to do the work as I am unable. The general quote they gave me was $5K for parts, $5K for labor and $5K for an engine from them ($15 grand ballpark). Fordcummins.com said I could probably find a wrecked truck with a cummins diesel for less than $5k and have it sent to them. They said the difference between the common rail and other is that common rail would be quieter. Ebay has several cummins motors for sale. All in all, the $15,000 price tag makes it out of my reach for now. If anyone else knows of shop near OH that could do it for cheaper, please chime in.
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You will need to be an electrical engineer or a very good electrical technician to do the commonrail......I think the 12V or 24V will be the easiest.
The guy on the second link that did a commonrail is an actual electrical engineer
Cummins in an Excursion - TheDieselGarage.com
Ford Excursion cummins swap (HPCR & 48RE) - Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums
The guy on the second link that did a commonrail is an actual electrical engineer
Cummins in an Excursion - TheDieselGarage.com
Ford Excursion cummins swap (HPCR & 48RE) - Dodge Diesel - Diesel Truck Resource Forums
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That's cool....at the time of that thread there were no conversion harnesses or trans control modules.....the dude had to take both diagrams and pin everything out
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I was planning on using the transmission in mine the 4r100 u can buy parts to build them up to hold up to the power and torque of a diesel. I was gonna build my myself but there is a place u can get to do it for ya. I was trying to find the web site but couldn't find it. When i do ill post it.
So if i use the comminrail and send my harness off to have it reworked do i use a dodge computer with it or the ford computer. I read that on the fordcummins page but couldn't figure out which computer i would use?
So if i use the comminrail and send my harness off to have it reworked do i use a dodge computer with it or the ford computer. I read that on the fordcummins page but couldn't figure out which computer i would use?
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I was planning on using the transmission in mine the 4r100 u can buy parts to build them up to hold up to the power and torque of a diesel. I was gonna build my myself but there is a place u can get to do it for ya. I was trying to find the web site but couldn't find it. When i do ill post it.
So if i use the comminrail and send my harness off to have it reworked do i use a dodge computer with it or the ford computer. I read that on the fordcummins page but couldn't figure out which computer i would use?
So if i use the comminrail and send my harness off to have it reworked do i use a dodge computer with it or the ford computer. I read that on the fordcummins page but couldn't figure out which computer i would use?
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Yeah that's the way i read it to but i just can't see how the ford computer can control the commonrail. Im gonna try and call them this week. As for using a dodge tranny with it i dunno i haven't seen a conversion that anyone has used it. You would have to to drive shaft work and cross-member work for sure.
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Yeah that's the way i read it to but i just can't see how the ford computer can control the commonrail. Im gonna try and call them this week. As for using a dodge tranny with it i dunno i haven't seen a conversion that anyone has used it. You would have to to drive shaft work and cross-member work for sure.
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So did I but my friend that will be doing the swap is not planning on having his shop done until this fall at the earliest....I don't mind the V10 is running strong w/o leaks and it gives me time to search for deals on parts n plan what else I want done
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I've got a 12V with 300k miles on it. Looking for a 7.3 Excursion only because my kids are getting too big for the quad cab. Not uncommon for the 12V to go 1m miles, but the rest of the truck is the limiting factor!
12V is simpler to maintain than the 24V, so cheaper if you are paying for the labor. 24V is quieter I believe. Don't know about the commonrail.
12V is simpler to maintain than the 24V, so cheaper if you are paying for the labor. 24V is quieter I believe. Don't know about the commonrail.
The problem is, it's getting harder and harder to find a low mileage wrecked 12v...
Now if only someone made a standalone controller for the torqueshift or the new 6r140, THAT (along with the 12v) I think would be a killer combo.
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I found the Diesel World article. It was Sept 2008. The guy put in a 12V (upgraded turbo and other tweaks). It was a detailed article. He used the V10 4R100 with an adaptor plate. He wanted to use the factory Ford cooling system and had to move the drivetrain several inches back in which he installed a body lift for clearance and also added a suspension lift. One sharp rig. He had an issue with the internet sourced adaptor for the tranny and ended up making one. He also used the factory Ford gauges by notching the damper for the tach signal and plugging the factory ford senders for oil and coolant into the Cummins block. All in all, the article was pretty good.
