No start no glow plug buzz
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No start no glow plug buzz
Went to start my truck this morning plugged in, turned the key and there was no glow plug buzz like usual.
It cranked and cranked and no start...
Where should I start looking?
Glow plug relays?
It cranked and cranked and no start...
Where should I start looking?
Glow plug relays?
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Check both primary or secondary...
You are a candidate for fuel gelling and wax drop out:
Diesel Fuel Gel test - Pwr Srvc, Howe's, Schaeffer - PowerStrokeNation
You are a candidate for fuel gelling and wax drop out:
Diesel Fuel Gel test - Pwr Srvc, Howe's, Schaeffer - PowerStrokeNation
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I will go home at lunch and throw a heater under the fuel tank and throw some diesel kleen in there. see what happens tonight. I really hope its something minor.
but that diesel untreated didnt look to good.
I just filled up sat morning, didnt start the truck or atleast try to until this morning.
turns out, truck was never plugged in, it came unpluggecd from inside the garage.
but that diesel untreated didnt look to good.
I just filled up sat morning, didnt start the truck or atleast try to until this morning.
turns out, truck was never plugged in, it came unpluggecd from inside the garage.
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Charge the batteries while you are at it.
Technically, if it is a wax dropout and not just gelling, you need to heat the whole fuel system above 50F to get the wax to reabsorb.
If you have contractor grade propane heaters, I would heat the whole garage.
Charge the batteries while you are at it.
You need Diesel 911 and cetane boost, not Dieselkleen.
Technically, if it is a wax dropout and not just gelling, you need to heat the whole fuel system above 50F to get the wax to reabsorb.
If you have contractor grade propane heaters, I would heat the whole garage.
Charge the batteries while you are at it.
You need Diesel 911 and cetane boost, not Dieselkleen.
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Thanks for your help
I will charge the batteries too.
Trucks in the drive way. It won't fit in the garage.
I have a couple of good heaters I will throw under it.
I will go and grab some of that stuff and throw it in.
I really hope this fixes the problem. I just find it hard to believe that everything geled up in less than a day.
I will charge the batteries too.
Trucks in the drive way. It won't fit in the garage.
I have a couple of good heaters I will throw under it.
I will go and grab some of that stuff and throw it in.
I really hope this fixes the problem. I just find it hard to believe that everything geled up in less than a day.
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You are between a rock and a hard place..
IT is a PITA to open filters and see if there is gelling..
Can you throw some blankets around the side of the vehicle to hold the heat in?
Be careful not to start a fire.
IT is a PITA to open filters and see if there is gelling..
Can you throw some blankets around the side of the vehicle to hold the heat in?
Be careful not to start a fire.
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Originally Posted by gearloose1
Bet you have a tank of gel.
How can fuel gelling be related to this problem?
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FYI...That buzz that you hear is not glow plugs. It's a combo of fuel pump, injector buzz (I think that depends on the flash), and vaccume pump. I think you may be headed in the right direction. What did you use to pull the codes with? When you get that tunner you are talking about getting, you might want to get a fuel pressure gauge as well. I would install it before the tunner my self for two reason.
1. It would really help you in a situation like this.
2. A big tune can really bring down fuel pressure under hard runs. Anything under 45 psi is consider really bad on your injectors.
Another thing you might want to consider (if you don't already) getting is an AE with the ford enhancements. That's if you plan to do your own wrenching. That thing is flat out amazing.
1. It would really help you in a situation like this.
2. A big tune can really bring down fuel pressure under hard runs. Anything under 45 psi is consider really bad on your injectors.
Another thing you might want to consider (if you don't already) getting is an AE with the ford enhancements. That's if you plan to do your own wrenching. That thing is flat out amazing.
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I was thinking the same thing...any ideas?
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We are dealing with a no start condition in extreme cold.
Steve!
See post below:
15F, way cold!
Please note, I am talking about 3 different things:
a) fuel gelling
That is it not flowing
b) wax dropout
where the fuel separates into its components
c) water freezing --- and separating from fuel as ice.
OP has no trouble cranking, has oil pressure (rule out LPOP), but no ignition!
FICM voltage good.
That leaves fuel pressure (test not run).
Fuel starvation will do that.
If biodiesel is used, another complication --- because it gels / wax drop out a lot more.
Steve!
See post below:
15F, way cold!
Please note, I am talking about 3 different things:
a) fuel gelling
That is it not flowing
b) wax dropout
where the fuel separates into its components
c) water freezing --- and separating from fuel as ice.
OP has no trouble cranking, has oil pressure (rule out LPOP), but no ignition!
FICM voltage good.
That leaves fuel pressure (test not run).
Fuel starvation will do that.
If biodiesel is used, another complication --- because it gels / wax drop out a lot more.