Blue Smoke
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This happened to my truck. I did o-rings. Turned out to be a blown turbo seal and when I released throttle and the turbo spooled down it lost suction and a big plume of blue smoke shot out my stack(not the good kind). Ended up having to get a brand new turbo. Might wanna get someone to look at your turbo unless you know what you are doing.
good luck though I hate the feeling of not knowing whats wrong
good luck though I hate the feeling of not knowing whats wrongWhen I last pulled codes, it was prior to the injector replacements, after replacing them, codes were cleared. I will not have the opportunity to monitor data or pull codes until Friday but I was hoping for more specific data to look into.
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Something to add today...ambient temps have come up quite a bit today, and the smoke has significantly reduced to barely noticable at idle? Anyone have any thoughts on a direction for this?
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Had the opportunity to pull codes and look at data over the weekend, the chip has been removed during the past month or so, just to make attempts to rule it out. That being said the only codes I have are...
p0470, and p0605(which without the chip what would it be?) CCT test only #3 out of balance, but I have the grey CPS in right now.
Looking at data, not sure what to check, but what stands out to me at idle is EBP of 53PSI. it never changes. ICP at idle is about 470PSI and IPR is 9%, just thought I'd throw those out there in case anyone has more suggestions, like I've said, not hugely concerned with the smoke as much as the rough running.
p0470, and p0605(which without the chip what would it be?) CCT test only #3 out of balance, but I have the grey CPS in right now.
Looking at data, not sure what to check, but what stands out to me at idle is EBP of 53PSI. it never changes. ICP at idle is about 470PSI and IPR is 9%, just thought I'd throw those out there in case anyone has more suggestions, like I've said, not hugely concerned with the smoke as much as the rough running.
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The fact that your EBP isn't changes either means the tube is clogged or the sensor is shot.
As for the blue smoke, have you checked the exhaust side of the turbo for the presence of oil? IIRC, when the seal goes, it'll leak oil out the exhaust. I'm guessing it disappears with higher rpm's since you have more air flow, but thats just a guess.
As for the blue smoke, have you checked the exhaust side of the turbo for the presence of oil? IIRC, when the seal goes, it'll leak oil out the exhaust. I'm guessing it disappears with higher rpm's since you have more air flow, but thats just a guess.
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That is something i am going to look into to check on the turbo, right now I am more focused on the rough running, and getting the P0605 every Koeo test and the p1316 every Koer test. Over the weekend I removed valve covers, removed harnesses and ohmed each individual plug out, and checked for shorting issues, followed that up with inspection of wiring from 9-pin connectors, to the 42-pin down the vc, and checked PCM for moisture, all looks well. With new injectors, I cannot understand why I get the p1316? I guess IDM but I do not know how to fully test it? Every buzz test passes.
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I get the P0605 code with the KOER test too and there's no chip. It doesn't show up on the main page of codes, so I ignore it.
Post #12 here talks about cleaning out all the connectors since the dielectric grease dried up. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...lp-please.html
Have you run a the CCT lately? Maybe that could help narrow it down.
Post #12 here talks about cleaning out all the connectors since the dielectric grease dried up. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...lp-please.html
Have you run a the CCT lately? Maybe that could help narrow it down.
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CCT only shows balance fault on #3, which I have the recall gray CPS in so I havent given much thought too. I am currently trying to find someone local that will do a compression test for under the cheapest quote I've gotten of 595 plus tax, grrr. I cant find anyone around that has the glow plug adapter to do it myself either.
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Another thought is my snap on scanner will show the module ID that you are looking at, when I try to view the PCM code and VIN it is scrambled with odd characters, so maybe there is something to the PCM error?
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Just to clarify, KOEO i get the p0605, everytime, clear it, and it comes back next KOEO, when my truck runs rough I get the p1316. I would just ingore the p0605 too, but with the p1316 showing up intermittently, becoming more constant though, I have to go the direction of the IDM or the PCM being faulty, i just dont know which way to go to test it thoroughly. By the books if i get the p0605 and clear it and it comes back "suspect a faulty PCM", but the same goes for the IDM is all wiring from the IDM to the injectors checks out great.
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I did disconnect the EBP sensor, about 2 years ago and it has never had an affect, i unplugged it because after cleaning it was still reading in the 50's with it disconnected it reads the 43.
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Still getting the 1316 code, buzz test shows its p1276, cylinder 6 high to low open. Removed IDM, inspected connectors, pulled harness from idm to pcm to 42pin connector, removed sheathing and inspected wiring for chaffing. All wiring appears well? As per this test procedure for the IDM, http://www.gbreman.com/docs/techbull...eplacement.pdf, the only discrepancies I have against this is test #1 My left bank measures consistent 4.1 Ohms, vs my right bank of consistent across all injectors of 3.8 Ohms. Any thoughts, leaning towards IDM, but may replace harnesses first as I think I can get them pretty cheap at a salvage yard.
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When I ohmmed my injectors mine were all 3.1 pass side and 4.2 drivers side. Don't know if this helps but there it is. Specialy since my truck isn't running good either but for different reasons though. So did you go back with stock injectors?
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It might be the injector solenoid. Try swapping it with a different one and see if it follows. Check this thread out: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-inj-code.html
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Yes i went with stock remans from full force, and thanks for the comparison Bulla
Grant, I have not tried swapping solenoid specifically but have swapped injectors around, same theory IMO, thats why I pulled all the wiring out and inspected it thinking it was the culprit, now it seems like maybe the IDM?
Grant, I have not tried swapping solenoid specifically but have swapped injectors around, same theory IMO, thats why I pulled all the wiring out and inspected it thinking it was the culprit, now it seems like maybe the IDM?