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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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need some GP / GPR help

Ok guys, I need alot of help . I have read the threads on the glow plugs and its all starting to run together. If you don't mind see if i am on the right track. On a 99 psd I am guessing the gpr is next to the fuel filter and I need to see if both large post and both small post are hot when the key is first turned on and the motor is cold. If I am not getting around 12v on all 4 post, then the GPR is bad. If all is hot, disconnect the harness going to the valve cover and test the 4 outside pins on the harness for .8 to 1.5 ohms. If i get out side that, start pulling valve covers and gp's?

Any help would be great and as always,

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Levi
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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There are two relays behind the fuel filter. The one closest to the firewall is the GPR. You should always have 12v+ to the large post to the left if looking at the front of the truck. When you turn the key on you should see 12v+ to the large post on the right. If you do then ohm the glowplugs. If you dont have 12v to the right post then the GPR is shot
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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To really check the control leads, small wires, they need to be disconnected because one supplies battery and the other ground.

Check the large terminals and if they test OK the control leads are fine.

You will see a drop in voltage on both large terminals with key on and the GPR operates. That means the GPs are drawing current to heat up.

 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Look at Robin, showing me up with his fancy pictures and diagrams.

Nice illustration!!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by robs01f250
Look at Robin, showing me up with his fancy pictures and diagrams.

Nice illustration!!
If you got it flaunt it.

"A picture is worth a thousand words"
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 01:36 PM
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Thanks for the help guys, I drove home for lunch (4 miles) and let it sit while i ate, I went out and tested the GPR to discover with the the following using the handy pic
Key off:
2 - 12v
3,4,5 - no volts

Key on not running:
2,3 - 12v
4,5 - no volts

I am going to make a wild assumption here and say the GPR is trash? My second thought is why is the truck smoking with a strong diesel smell when only cycling the key numerous times if the GPR is bad?

thanks again
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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the glow plugs help burn up the fuel until evrything heats up on its own.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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If the truck was still cold then the GPR is trash. I would recommend that you replace with this:
Welcome to guzzle's Stancor GPR replacement Mod Web Page
Mine stars alot better after the GPR replacement
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Keep in mind that the GPR could measure voltage on #4 above but not have enough juice to the plugs to fully operate them. Also, I have had on GPR that would power some times and not others. I did the Stancor too. No more problems... with GPR anyway
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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just for grins, i went out a second ago and double checked myself and i only have 1 relay on top of the motor. it is brown and looks like the one in the pic that was posted is this the correct relay or is it the one bolted to the pass front fender with the two big post tied together with a double eye battery cable?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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You are probably measuring your AIH relay. You probably have a gpcm on your truck. CA trucks and excursions will probably have the gpcm. Here is a pic.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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Its not a CA truck, I know the guy that bought the truck new and when he traded it i bought it, she (the truck) always lived in Texas. so i am stumped yet again on what the heck to do. please keep the post comin and i'll keep a checkin.

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Levi
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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If you look back at Robins picture at the very bottom you can see the AIH relay. You should have two unless someone removed the AIH or you have a gpcm.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:19 PM
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does yours have the little grey box like in the picture?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tdpower
If you look back at Robins picture at the very bottom you can see the AIH relay. You should have two unless someone removed the AIH or you have a gpcm.
there is only one....what is the AIH and what does it hurt being gone?
 
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