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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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So talking to my buddy the other day(chevy guy) he says that the trucks from 87-96 are god awful because the front suspension is dumb cause there a ridicoulous amount of u joints and he says that the fuel injections dont last long and there impossible to fix any truth to this???
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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sounds like hes sad that a ford pulled him out of a ditch the other day,,,
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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The TTB has one less joint (technically) than a chevys IFS, also, the ford doesnt have a weak axle disconect like the chevy.

There isn't anymore problems with Ford injectors than Chevy
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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when people argue about the infamous "my trucks better", i just say i may prefer ford over chevy or dodge, but there all here for the same reason and they all break
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Well, my Bronco is 18yo and is yet to have a problem with her fuel injection, even though we have had some very bad quality fuel lately (a lot of newer cars are losing pumps and having all sorts of problems with it).
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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Chevy guys are always whineing about something.. there are loads of possibilities but the major one is probably that the GM trucks from this era were complete junk and are long gone to the scrapyard while we're still drivin ours.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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The TTB really is a lousy suspension for a truck. IMO the only suspension for a truck is a solid axle. But given the choice of a D44 TTB for a chevy IFS, I'll take the TTB.

And you're friend is smoking crack on the injector point. Almost any injector can be rebuilt for a price. And Ford's are no more prone to issues than Chevy's
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Well, during that period Chevy used the cheap TBI. But I guess TBI is easier and cheaper to fix than the Ford system.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazy K
Well, during that period Chevy used the cheap TBI. But I guess TBI is easier and cheaper to fix than the Ford system.
True, but the TTB is more capable offroad, and can stand up to higher stresses in my experience.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Samsonitesamsonite
True, but the TTB is more capable offroad, and can stand up to higher stresses in my experience.
You're mixing up front suspensions and EFI systems...

TBI = Throttle Body Injection
TTB = Twin Traction Beam
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
You're mixing up front suspensions and EFI systems...

TBI = Throttle Body Injection
TTB = Twin Traction Beam
In that case, TBI may be cheaper/easier but MPI has the potential for more power and is more efficient.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Samsonitesamsonite
The TTB really is a lousy suspension for a truck. IMO the only suspension for a truck is a solid axle.
I disagree on that point I'd take an IFS front end over a solid axle any day, my problem with solid axles is they have very limited articulation especially when paired with leaf springs, and a suspension that doesn't move is usless IMO. The Ford TTB is easily the strongest IFS ever produced, besides dried out U-joints and bushings it simply doesn't break.. under normal driving conditions, while these wishbone front ends are falling apart just driving around on the street.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Also, on the injection, Ford had sequential injection a whole decade before chevy, so that might be why he is sore. I've never had problems with the fuel injection setup on any gen8 or gen9 ford trucks.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
I disagree on that point I'd take an IFS front end over a solid axle any day, my problem with solid axles is they have very limited articulation especially when paired with leaf springs, and a suspension that doesn't move is usless IMO. The Ford TTB is easily the strongest IFS ever produced, besides dried out U-joints and bushings it simply doesn't break.. under normal driving conditions, while these wishbone front ends are falling apart just driving around on the street.
No offense, but the only real application for a ttb in the offroad world is in pre-runners. Solid axles can get substantially more flex. A solid axle can take substantially more weight and still maintain it's alignment. Dont get me wrongI have a TTB in myF150. but saying A ttb is equal to or better than a solid axle, just doesn't make sense.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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I have a few Chevy friends as well, there's no changing their vision of Fords. As far as the TTB vs Solid, my 97HD of course has the TTB, while my F350 Dump has the solid, I have no issues with either, but the TTB rides much better. I like having the solid on the Dump since I plow with it.
 
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