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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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EGR valve issues abating?

Just dropped by my friendly dealer parts counter... and picked up this tidbit..

Seems in the past 6 months / year... the number of EGR valves replaced have sharply plunged --- more so that can be explained by the factory procedure to clean it being now standard.

Is the new "pink dot" valve doing it?

Better FICM calibrations?

Or is it a rash of bad fuel from years past (before switch to ULSD in 2007)?

If the problems abated two years after the switch.. that is about the time for the fleet to come in with problems.. get serviced.. and are not seen again.

If you cleaned your EGR valve in the past 2 years... and cleaned it recently,

Did it get less dirty?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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thats some good info gearloose.

another factor could be coolant filters, people being better educated about the 6.0 ( owners and techs), and maybe all the people out of warranty going to deletes, or just better parts like BPD egr cooler.

have 6.4 had similar egr clogging problems?. just wondering since they only use the 15 ppm fuel
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by amadas350
another factor could be coolant filters, people being better educated about the 6.0 ( owners and techs), and maybe all the people out of warranty going to deletes, or just better parts like BPD egr cooler.

have 6.4 had similar egr clogging problems?. just wondering since they only use the 15 ppm fuel

Clearly, the numbers driving with deletes is a major factor in cutting demand.

I don't think coolant filters affected EGR valves -- unless the coolant leak turned into valve killing deposits.

Also don't think BPD have anything to do with it - except for coolant leak caused valve issues.


I did talk to the parts guy abut the 6.4 valve... and apparently it is absolutely no problem --- very few replaced.

The 2011 is too early to tell.

So, the issue may, after all, be behind us.

No doubt the heavy use of things like cetane boost, generally better maintenance, etc. is helping.

I heard some fleets buy Ford cetane boost by the gallon cans!


In my case, I know my egr valve was hardly cleaned for several years, and since I got it to work properly, I regularly run a few runs of WOT to clean crud out of the EGR system / turbo / engine.

I too, am a better educated customer after a year and change.


If I can only monitor Ford warranty claims and parts sales... LOL... I would learn so much.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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My fleet consists of 1 6.0 1 7.3 and 1 John Deere, I get the Motorcraft cetane by the gallon cans for around $35
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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for some reason i thought u said cooler/valve.

yeah i agree the coolant filter and BPD cooler would not have anything to do with the valve.

i hope the cetane does help. i have been adding diesel-clean to every tank for past few months.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Humm, I am a little embarrassed to admit that i have never cleaned my EGR value. X runs great with no known issues or codes and 83K on the clock. I made the attempt but could not get it out! Are there any secrets, just bang on it and buy a new one? Help, please. Thanks.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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Mark's Tech Folder: EGR cleaning procedure

It is kind of like you need coat hanger.. duct tape...

EGR

and everything you don't want to know but are not afraid to ask:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/3...ch-folder.html
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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i got a really big pair of channel-locks and a plactic hammer.
unbolted it, tapped the sides with hammer to loosen it up. then to big pair of channel-locks and wiggled it out.
 
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Be careful you don't damage the housing!
 
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doen 3 in the last 2 weeks. got one more that was bad out of the box again
that said have been doing less. think its software related.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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Maybe everyone's already replaced theirs
 
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I've been preaching fuel quality since I first walked in the door. Post#2... my third post at FTE https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...-problems.html
 
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Originally Posted by vloney
I've been preaching fuel quality since I first walked in the door. Post#2... my third post at FTE https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...-problems.html

What we need is a way to gauge fuel quality with a simple test.

A way to estimate cetane numbers either from a simple instrument or from reading the engine operating data.

Got any ideas?
 
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Originally Posted by gearloose1
What we need is a way to gauge fuel quality with a simple test.

A way to estimate cetane numbers from reading the engine operating data.

Got any ideas?
we have that its measured in the amount of engine coking, the more coked it is the worse the cetane
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gearloose1
What we need is a way to gauge fuel quality with a simple test.

A way to estimate cetane numbers either from a simple instrument or from reading the engine operating data.

Got any ideas?
The next time you send off an oil sample, send a fuel sample too.
 
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