2003 PSD starter will not turn
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
2003 PSD starter will not turn
my dads 2003 PSD, starter will not turn when you turn the key. batterys are good, was running fine. checked all fuses related to starting. is there a way to check the starter relay? seems to be electrical or starter locked up. any suggestions? thanks for the help.
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,089
Likes: 16
If it is an automatic, Try putting in neutral and see if it will start.
There is a starter solenoid on the inside of the passenger fender that will go bad. You can jump across the terminals and if it does not start then, it could just be the starter is bad.
There is a starter solenoid on the inside of the passenger fender that will go bad. You can jump across the terminals and if it does not start then, it could just be the starter is bad.
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,089
Likes: 16
the starter solenoid is on the inside of the passenger fender directly behind battery right beside hood shock. it has two larger wires on it and some smaller wires. one of the big wires should have power all the time. The other one should get power when the key is turned. If not u need to see if the smaller wire is putting power to the relay when the key is turned, if it is and the big termina does not get power, the relay is bad. If the big relay gets power on both big terminals when key is turned and it does not start, you need to check connections at starter and batteries. If no power to big terminal and no power to small terminal when key is turned, it will be a fuse, broken wire, or key switch.
Picture of solenoid:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ictureid=53888
Picture of solenoid:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/p...ictureid=53888
Hotshot
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 17,988
Likes: 207
From: La La Land
I THINK that they deleted using the starter relay in either 2002 or 2003, and all the high-current switching is done directly at the starter motor. But I'm not certain about that.
This MAY be the wiring diagram for it, however:
http://www.e-toolbox.com/ads/wiring/va153657.pdf
Looks like Fuse #'s 31, 51, & 61 are all involved.
However, what I don't see in that schematic is a neutral safety switch, so I'm not-so-sure that the drawing is correct, either.
Pop
This MAY be the wiring diagram for it, however:
http://www.e-toolbox.com/ads/wiring/va153657.pdf
Looks like Fuse #'s 31, 51, & 61 are all involved.
However, what I don't see in that schematic is a neutral safety switch, so I'm not-so-sure that the drawing is correct, either.
Pop
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,089
Likes: 16
Aww crap, Pop is right. Good catch Pop. I apologize for that. I forgot they did that before the 6.0 trucks.
The same tests will apply but they will be at starter motor. It will prob be pain in the butt to see too. If u can find the small wire and check it for power when the key is turned, it will tell u if its starter or not. If it gets power and no start, then starter is bad. This assumes that all your battery connections are good and proper voltage levels. If you are in doubt of that at all, hook a volt meter to the batts if u have one and try to crank with someone watching it and see if it drops below 10volts. 11.5 v is probably the least I would want to see but truck will not crank at all below 10 volts.
The same tests will apply but they will be at starter motor. It will prob be pain in the butt to see too. If u can find the small wire and check it for power when the key is turned, it will tell u if its starter or not. If it gets power and no start, then starter is bad. This assumes that all your battery connections are good and proper voltage levels. If you are in doubt of that at all, hook a volt meter to the batts if u have one and try to crank with someone watching it and see if it drops below 10volts. 11.5 v is probably the least I would want to see but truck will not crank at all below 10 volts.
Trending Topics
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, Georgia
Is everything acting like normal? i.e. Turn the key. WTS light comes on then goes off, and then no start? If so it is most likely the starter solenoid or ... Starter. If the light doesn't work like normal, go checking your fuses like the other guys have stated, if the PCM fuse is blown, unplug your fuel bowl heating element first. Go from there. Most likely it is you starter solenoid. If you are brave enough you can turn on the key and jump the solenoid manually with a screw driver, just touch one of the large posts with power to them to the smaller one, and don't touch the metal on the screwdriver, it will shock you.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 444
Likes: 2
From: Franktown, CO
Have you crawled under there and physically checked the starter. On my 03 one of the bolts broke. I had to hold the starter in place while my son cranked it. We made it home and the next day replaced bolts and was good to go.
