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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by havi
These "highboys" had a power assist type steering, but on the last truck of this type we built, we swapped in an integral power steering unit....similar method as the Toyota box steering in the F1/100
That was some "jicky" power steering, very touchy. The worst thing about it is that the power assist ram was very vulnerable. It was mounted out in front of the front axle and very easy to smash on a rock.

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Not a problem, thanks for setting me straight.

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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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I went to a wrecking yard today and did some measuring a several different 70s Fords. This is what i came up width 34" +- 1" depending on the place. The frame width on my '60 is 34" and the frame profiles look similar.

Here's some pictures of my '60 (aka Abby) and close ups of the screwed up the frame.

abby pictures by jmstrickland3 - Photobucket
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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I just remembered, I forgot to tell yall that a previous owner rigged up extra shocks on both front and back axles and to top all that someone rigged c10 chevy helper springs to strengthen the back axle. check out the pictures to see that mess.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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I checked out your pics and it honestly doesn't look that bad to me. Most of it is stuff that has been added rather than stuff that has been hacked or cut up. It would seem to me that the relatively minor repairs could be done in MUCH less time than a frame swap would take. I think most of the sins could be forgiven in one afternoon with a torch and grinder. Weld up a few extra holes after that and you're back in business. Swapping heavier running gear underneath your existing chassis is a fairly simple proposition as well. If you look through Nathan's build, there's much more to a well done frame swap than there initially appears.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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Here's the links to the crew cab on a '77 frame. This what got me thinking about putting my '60 on '77-79 frame.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...my-1960-a.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-cab-pics.html

Here's a '65 on a '79 chassis with a 4bt cummins zf5 np205

4bt in a 65/79 Ford
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 01:49 AM
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yep fordman i was referring to yours . you'll have to forgive me , slightly tired and out of it ............ at least i didn't call it something bad like a c@$y or something ................ had no idea the 4x4's were narrower those year's thanx for the info scott !!! something to keep in mind as i intend too , one of these days go back and " revisit my build / frame swap and get it finished without interference from the other half leading to it's demise !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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someone should take that compilation of Old's and make it a sticky.,.. labeled "frame swaps and turning coal into gold... it can be done " this question comes up at least once a month

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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueOvalRage
I checked out your pics and it honestly doesn't look that bad to me. Most of it is stuff that has been added rather than stuff that has been hacked or cut up. It would seem to me that the relatively minor repairs could be done in MUCH less time than a frame swap would take. I think most of the sins could be forgiven in one afternoon with a torch and grinder. Weld up a few extra holes after that and you're back in business. Swapping heavier running gear underneath your existing chassis is a fairly simple proposition as well. If you look through Nathan's build, there's much more to a well done frame swap than there initially appears.
I went through Nathan's build; thank you Nathan for all the picture and info. Why go through all the straightening and plating to repair a 50yr old frame that has been abused, and still have arm strong steering, 1/2 ton axles and suspension, and brakes that aren't very good.

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someone should take that compilation of Old's and make it a sticky.,.. labeled "frame swaps and turning coal into gold... it can be done " this question comes up at least once a month

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that would make a really good sticky.
 
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I got some good measurements off of a '78 f150 4x4 wb 133" and a '78 f250 supercab 2wd wb 155". the measurements are encouraging for a swap with the '60. The wheelbase on my '60 is 118", but the longer wheelbase would be great, cause I want to stretch the bed on the '60. I think come February I'll be buying a '77.5-79 f250 4x4 and start fabricating. thanks for the input and help.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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I also have a '78 F150 4x4, and will be getting a mid-'70's F150 2wd this coming Spring (when the snow melts), so if ya need more measurements, let me know.
 
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more yard art eh scott ????????????????????
 
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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more yard art eh scott ????????????????????
Yeah, sorta. It's a 2wd frame, 360 engine, C6, front suspension and wheels, rear springs, no rear end. Free, from a coworker who started cleaning up his father's farmyard. I'm thinking of just cutting off the back 3/4, and make an engine testing stand out of the front. I'm in no hurry though, so I can provide measurements if needed.
 
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