I Have a 1963 Ford F750 that is losing a water pump. Short of looking behind the starter for casting numbers how can I determine what the motor is. The "Warranty" plate numbers do not seem to help. it is F75WU460065. When I purchased it I was told it was a Boss 302 and always figured this was not even close to correct. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In the door it also says 173 hp at 3600 RPM if that helps

 

I think when Boss 302 is said comes to mind a Mustang.Boss 302. I am
sure in 63 this will be a 332 or a 302 the tell tales are dist is in the rear
most likley rams horn exhaust manifolds two bolt valve covers that have
ribs where the nuts are, high mount fan. Water pumps are the same for
both engines with are Lincoln based. And then who knows if somebody
put a 390 in it. So if the distrubutor is in the front it is not a Y block.
Hope this helps. sam

 

The W in the VIN indicates a 332 for '62 & '63. 173 hp @ 3600 rpm.

 

And check with Napa for the water pump, once you figure out what motor it is. You'd be surprised what they have or can get...

 

Thanks for the response! I have been suspicious that it may be a 332 lincoln? Dist. is in rear and two valve cover bolts throught center of heads so assumed a Y block. You are right the code in door may not indicate what has been swapped out over the years. It is looking like the 360-390 water pump looks the same as what is there now. It is chattering and leaking but still works. I use this old girl every day and hesitate to pull the pump and have to wait for replacement parts. Thanks again for the input.

 

You now say it looks like a 360/390 FE-?
again distributor in front, 352 all the way up to 391FE&FT
all Y blocks dist. is in the rear.

Water pump I think you have must have a steel formed by pass tube
from the pump to the thermostat housing with two 7/16 bolts then its
a 332 302 . I type this in stone, because I just serviced this engine just
now getting ready for a possible snow storm its a 332 Y in a 1954 F900.
I have written this many times on these sites that is when the Y block
takes its final dump, the best one, a 391FT slides right in there no mods
no cutting no making up stuff all standard parts exhaust and all. My other
four all have 391s a genuine industrial engine that I wont trade for anything they will ring circles around them Y's. Google "Kanter Auto parts"
in NJ If they dont have it they will rebuild it Go into
my garage > look around in there A 391 we put in a 1953 F900 town
truck looks like it belong in there> Just tryin ta help

 

The parts are off now. The 360-390 water pump is exactly the same except the double pulley is about twice as big. The 302-332 water pump that is ordered looks to be the same bolt pattern and heater configuration. Here's hoping!

 

The 302/332 waterpump is not the same as an FE or FT waterpump.

1956/63: There are SIX different 302/332 waterpumps. It depends on the truck series it's installed in, what the serial number is, and the number of pulley sheaves (grooves) the pump has.

F75WU460065 = This VIN is in-correct for a 1963 anything. The last six digits of 460065 are for a 1964, assembled October 1963. 1964 production began in August 1963 with serial number 445,001.

But, no 1964 anything had a VIN engine code of W (or a 302/332 engine), so I'm assuming the serial number is a typo.

F75 = F750; W = 332 4V (173 net HP @ 3,600 RPM); U = Louisville KY Assembly Plant.

C3TZ8501C .. 302/332 Waterpump-Use with double pulley / Obsolete / Fits: 1961 F700/750 from serial number 170,001 & 1962/63 F700/750.

The 332 (and its smaller 302 brother) are Lincoln derived Y blocks used in 1956/63 500 and larger trucks (the 317 Lincoln based Y block was used 1952/55).

All Y blocks...Ford or Lincoln: The dizzy is BEHIND the carb.

FT engines introduced in 1964, used thru 1978. Like all OHV FoMoCo V8 engines except Y blocks, the dizzy is in FRONT of the carb.

Only one truck smaller than a 500 series came with an FT engine. 1973/78 F350's made exclusively by Ford for U-Haul came with the 330 2V H/D FT engine.

FE engines were used in 1958/71 Passenger Cars & 1965/76 F100/350's.

btw: If the engine has been swapped, it could be a 292, the Ford Y block used in 1955/62 Passenger Cars & 1957/64 trucks.

 

I had a waterpump ordered and it was incorrect. (360,390) It appeared visually to be exactly the same except the double pulley was significantly larger. That is the "warranty"number on my door and I am certain it is a Yblock. I have a 302-332 water pump ordered based on crossing the ford number on the existing pump. It has the double pulley but I would need to swap out my existing heater hose bib and bypass because new opump is just open holes .Hopefully that will get it back on the road. Whatever motor it is it has less that 30K on it. It was a retired water truck that was later fitted with a 14ft grain dump bed. Love it and dont want be without it! Thanks for the input, heres hoping.

 

Welcome to FTE

There are THREE different FE waterpumps:

1958/63-Use with generator / 1964-Use with generator / 1963/64-Use with alternator -Thunderbird only & 1965/76 all (same as 1963/64 with alternator).

The 1963 Thundebird was the first FoMoCo vehicle to come standard equipment with an alternator. 1965 and later...all have it.
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If the F750's engine is the original 332, the correct waterpump is C3TZ8501C = its application is listed in post #8. If you cannot find one, which would not surprise me one damn bit...

AL WHITE MOTOR CO. in Manchester TN has TWO = 931-728-9700.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has FOUR = 800-543-4959.

NO other Ford dealer or obsolete part vendor has any (these are NOS-not rebuilts)...which shouldn't surprise anyone, since the puppy has been obsolete for over 30 years.

Part number info source: 1957/63 Ford Truck Parts Catalog.

 

The Second water pump ordered was the exact same as original equipment which NAPA says goes 302-332 Y block?. The one ordered for a 360,390 had the was exactly the same as well just a larger double pulley. Any way, She is back on the road and I appreciate all the input.

Thanks again

Ken