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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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Low speed contruction towing

Towing capacities are listed are for highway use. Are there any capacities available for off road use? We have a 97 F250 4x4 crew cab at work that an issue came up that we needed to pull a farm wagon that weighed 12,500 pounds at less than 5mph on level concrete at a construction site. Is this within range of this truck?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Throw it in low range and go for it. You should not have any problems. Just watch your speed and remember the trailer exceeds the braking capacity of your truck.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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it will be fine, i pulled our loaded fuel oil deliver truck last winter when my cousin forgot to put anti gel in it and i towed it three miles to our shop to work on it. even though i have a 04 F-350 with a 5.4 i just put her in low range, and go real easy.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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The issue is having proof that we can use it for this purpose. I have done it before and it worked fine but we are being questioned on how we can knowingly use a truck over its rated capacity.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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The issue is having proof that we can use it for this purpose. I have done it before and it worked fine but we are being questioned on how we can knowingly use a truck over its rated capacity.

Sounds like liability/insurance is at the root of this question.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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I've pulled plenty of big rigs when I still had my shop. The tow trucks would leave them down the street so it was either pull, push or call the wrecker again when we had space to move them in. Hell no I'm not calling a wrecker while I have my truck. It was fun.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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The issue is having proof that we can use it for this purpose. I have done it before and it worked fine but we are being questioned on how we can knowingly use a truck over its rated capacity.
Questioned by whom?

I don't think you will find any official ratings like that. If you need a document, you are out of luck.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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I wish I had video of me blocking traffic with my truck pulling a truck and trailer. Yeah it was empty but still heavy. A cop started yelling at me and threatened to give me a ticket so I told him fine I'll leave it there, that's where I found it. He stopped me from unhooking my chains real quick and just said to get it moved so it's not blocking traffic. That was funny.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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You worry abut pulling 12,000 wagon at 5 mph?
And I see those 1 ton trucks pulling 4 car-haulers at freeway speed all the time.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Everyone seems to be in agreement that the truck can physically handle the task just fine. The questions seem to be:
  1. Does a construction site still qualify as a public road/highway?
    If so, a LEO could still issue a violation for exceeding the combined weight rating of the rig.
  2. If something were to go wrong, could the insurance company balk at the claim?
    Knowing insurance companies, I'm sure they would try!

And given that this is a commercial operation, the legal/liability issues just get that much more complicated.

Just my $0.02
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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Also, if the driver were to get a ticket of any variety while "overloaded" HE would be responsible for any fines, not the company he/she is working for.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Construction site, IMO, is not a public roadway. (unless your constructing public roadways, i guess).

If his supervisor told him to move the load with his truck, the company just became liable. If he's moving this on his own accord, he is responsible.

That's my two cents.... maybe worth only one though. (darn economy)
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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I spoke about heavy loads pulled by pickups with couple of DOT officers and LEO do NOT check or worry about GCWR at all. One said "we don't have records about vehicles hauling more than manufacturer recommendations costing any safety issues"
They do check the weigh stickers to make sure you paid the fees adequate to the hauled weight.
Than again, if you see something like this doing 60 mph on the freeway, why would you worry about anything doing 5 mph at construction site?

 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
I spoke about heavy loads pulled by pickups with couple of DOT officers and LEO do NOT check or worry about GCWR at all. One said "we don't have records about vehicles hauling more than manufacturer recommendations costing any safety issues"
They do check the weigh stickers to make sure you paid the fees adequate to the hauled weight.
Than again, if you see something like this doing 60 mph on the freeway, why would you worry about anything doing 5 mph at construction site?

Looks to me like the damn trailer itself is overloaded. Look at how its bowing. Just because the truck is capable of towing this mess at 60 mph DOES NOT mean its safe to do so. Just because youre driving a diesel 1 ton does not mean that you can haul the same weight as a 18 wheel semi. They have those extra axles and larger tires and brakes for a reason. As for the original question, I'd think your truck will handle the 12,000 lbs at 5 mph but, like you I'd be worried about the liability factor. The reason liability is such a big issue anymore is because of IDIOTS like the driver of the truck in the picture. Then when something goes wrong and kills everyone old enough to die.................He's going to sue someone because "It wasn't my fault" BS it wasnt his fault............
 
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