ECT/EOT Sensor locations and other Q's
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Mountain Pass
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ECT/EOT Sensor locations and other Q's
Been hit with the EGR cooler failure. Hope HG not blown. I will install gauges but what is the best location for the sensor probes?
I will probably go with BP EGR cooler but, can a delete be done on an 05 in Cali and pass smog?
Where to buy gauges? Not seeing much online for ECT/EOT besides the Edge.
Sorry for the new thread, been using the search function for days and my head hurts.
TKS
I will probably go with BP EGR cooler but, can a delete be done on an 05 in Cali and pass smog?
Where to buy gauges? Not seeing much online for ECT/EOT besides the Edge.
Sorry for the new thread, been using the search function for days and my head hurts.
TKS
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subscribed...I'm looking for gauges too. You're questions are timely as that info will help me as well when I get them. I'm leaning towards the Edge Insight myself, but just posted a separate thread asking if there are any reasons to go the true gauge route.
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Been hit with the EGR cooler failure. Hope HG not blown. I will install gauges but what is the best location for the sensor probes?
I will probably go with BP EGR cooler but, can a delete be done on an 05 in Cali and pass smog?
Where to buy gauges? Not seeing much online for ECT/EOT besides the Edge.
Sorry for the new thread, been using the search function for days and my head hurts.
TKS
I will probably go with BP EGR cooler but, can a delete be done on an 05 in Cali and pass smog?
Where to buy gauges? Not seeing much online for ECT/EOT besides the Edge.
Sorry for the new thread, been using the search function for days and my head hurts.
TKS
I am also in CA, and this is our first year of emission testing for diesels. So what sneaks by, or not, is not yet known. Personally I will not be deleting my EGR. I believe they would fail you, if not this time, then next time. I also do not believe you have to delete to have a reliable 6.0. So what's the point?
You didn't mention it above, so just to be sure you know, your EGR cooler failed because your oil cooler is plugged up. You must rebuild the oil cooler as part of your EGR cooler repair. Then add a coolant filter. Then flush. Then use ELC, yadayadayada.
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If you want to watch ECT and EOT to monitor oil cooler condition, you cannot do better than the OEM sensor locations. I'm not convinced you can even get temps that properly correlate from any other add-on sender locations. What that means is, use an OBD monitor for those temps. Edge, Scangage, whatever.
I am also in CA, and this is our first year of emission testing for diesels. So what sneaks by, or not, is not yet known. Personally I will not be deleting my EGR. I believe they would fail you, if not this time, then next time. I also do not believe you have to delete to have a reliable 6.0. So what's the point?
You didn't mention it above, so just to be sure you know, your EGR cooler failed because your oil cooler is plugged up. You must rebuild the oil cooler as part of your EGR cooler repair. Then add a coolant filter. Then flush. Then use ELC, yadayadayada.
I am also in CA, and this is our first year of emission testing for diesels. So what sneaks by, or not, is not yet known. Personally I will not be deleting my EGR. I believe they would fail you, if not this time, then next time. I also do not believe you have to delete to have a reliable 6.0. So what's the point?
You didn't mention it above, so just to be sure you know, your EGR cooler failed because your oil cooler is plugged up. You must rebuild the oil cooler as part of your EGR cooler repair. Then add a coolant filter. Then flush. Then use ELC, yadayadayada.
Also thanks for clearing up that the stock system has sensors. Was thinking that these were only threshold sensors (switches) and did not return actual measurements, but I'm (thankfully) wrong in this case?
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Yes, the stock sensors are very good. The dash gauges are dummied down, but the OBD temp data is very precise.
One thing I have found that is annoying, is that ECT is shown in whole degrees, and EOT is shown in 10ths of a degree. I don't know if that is specific to my Insight, or if that is how the PCM reports it. Either way, it is a minor annoyance.
One thing I have found that is annoying, is that ECT is shown in whole degrees, and EOT is shown in 10ths of a degree. I don't know if that is specific to my Insight, or if that is how the PCM reports it. Either way, it is a minor annoyance.
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I am looking at relocating my sender from the oil cap to where the OEM sender is located. I have read awhile back that someone put a T where the OEM oil sender switch is and installed both the OEM and a dash mount gauge sender. Does anyone know what size of T is required to accomplish this?
I don't believe it works properly for temps, but you can make your own call on that.
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Yup, read a lot of threads, thanks. Going with the bulletproof EGR cooler and stock oil cooler, was just wondering if anyone had definitive procedures and experience with egr delete and Ca emissions.
Also thanks for clearing up that the stock system has sensors. Was thinking that these were only threshold sensors (switches) and did not return actual measurements, but I'm (thankfully) wrong in this case?
Also thanks for clearing up that the stock system has sensors. Was thinking that these were only threshold sensors (switches) and did not return actual measurements, but I'm (thankfully) wrong in this case?
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I read an article on the 6.0 temp gauge location. The article said that the best location for the ECT was in the left side of the block.
Has anyone heard of relocating the ECT to the left side of the block ? is it a more accurate reading ?
Has anyone heard of relocating the ECT to the left side of the block ? is it a more accurate reading ?
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You probably are getting ECT and EGT mixed up.
EGT (Exhaust Gas Temp) is usually placed in the left (driver side) exhaust manifold.
ECT (engine coolant Temp) is right where it needs to be.
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6.p temp
I still run 16 degrees difference between ECT and the EOT. I have been reading articles to find out what my options are.
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The only thing you should be concerned about is 253 degree defuel if you already have the oil cooler externally. What are your temps... oil should be cooler than coolant? And EGR delete, it's cooled after the oil cooler if it was still stock, doesn't matter now. If the oil cooler were cooled by coolant, then you have reason to believe it may be plugged, but it should be air cooled, should never really plug.
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6.p temp
The only thing you should be concerned about is 253 degree defuel if you already have the oil cooler externally. What are your temps... oil should be cooler than coolant? And EGR delete, it's cooled after the oil cooler if it was still stock, doesn't matter now. If the oil cooler were cooled by coolant, then you have reason to believe it may be plugged, but it should be air cooled, should never really plug.