Notices
Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Would you make this trade?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 15, 2010 | 10:37 PM
  #1  
rconnor's Avatar
rconnor
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Would you make this trade?

July of 2010, after a long search I finally found my EX. It is a 2003 6.0 Diesel Eddie Edition, White, 133,000 miles. Came with the chip installed. Aftermarket turbo, cold air intake., etc. Aftermarket wood dashed installed Obviously it was owned by an enthusiast. It was very clean. I paid 16,5000

Fast forward to today and I find a Black 2001 Limited 7.3 Diesel. Ok condition. I dont think it has anything aftermarket..no chip etc. 311,000 miles. $9,500 at a ford dealer.

I originally wanted black all along. Yes I could get mine painted. But I'm very interested in the 7.3l mainly

I could prob trade in my current EX and get cash back in the process and then have no payment at all. I would then of course have to put in my own cold air and chip mod.

Is the 7.3 that sought after or better then the 6.0. Give the information above would you make the trade.

Thanks
 
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2010 | 10:51 PM
  #2  
i eat hybrids's Avatar
i eat hybrids
Post Fiend
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,955
Likes: 9
From: Ohio
Is your 6.0 trouble some or one of the reliable ones?
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 05:32 AM
  #3  
blackx psd's Avatar
blackx psd
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Nebraska
You wouldn't have a payment for long. You are reaching the expected rebuild mileage on that 7.3. Can they last longer than 350-400k yes but do all 7.3's reach 400k? No.

I also believe you will be disappointed in the performance level of the 7.3 vs. 6.0. Make a pros and cons list of why you would want to trade.

I am guessing you took a loan out for let's say $15. So after 5 months you probably owe 13.5ish. You are looking to save 4000 by trading. In the whole scheme of things for 4k I would stick with what you have. 4k isn't a lot of money when you start thinking about having to repower a 7.3 that has almost double the mileage of your 6.0 and going back to the 4r100 vs. 5r100.

What was typed above and 59 cents will get you a cup of coffee at the store. Good luck with your decision.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:50 AM
  #4  
mgmoore7's Avatar
mgmoore7
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
No way, not me.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:06 AM
  #5  
RCKYMTN-PSD's Avatar
RCKYMTN-PSD
Elder User
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 660
Likes: 0
From: near Daytona
Id pass. 311,000 - possibly could be rebuilding a lot more than a motor
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:29 AM
  #6  
rconnor's Avatar
rconnor
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by i eat hybrids
Is your 6.0 trouble some or one of the reliable ones?

I have not had any trouble yet. The White Ex checked out clean at it's first check up. It just now getting cold in Atlanta so we shall see
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:34 AM
  #7  
rconnor's Avatar
rconnor
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by blackx psd
You wouldn't have a payment for long. You are reaching the expected rebuild mileage on that 7.3. Can they last longer than 350-400k yes but do all 7.3's reach 400k? No.

I also believe you will be disappointed in the performance level of the 7.3 vs. 6.0. Make a pros and cons list of why you would want to trade.

I am guessing you took a loan out for let's say $15. So after 5 months you probably owe 13.5ish. You are looking to save 4000 by trading. In the whole scheme of things for 4k I would stick with what you have. 4k isn't a lot of money when you start thinking about having to repower a 7.3 that has almost double the mileage of your 6.0 and going back to the 4r100 vs. 5r100.

What was typed above and 59 cents will get you a cup of coffee at the store. Good luck with your decision.

I put down 7,000 on my current EX I owe right about 9,000 now. Depending on how I sell it I should be able to get at least 5,000 extra. Money sounds nice but I know I would put it back into the truck to bring it back up to the level of goodies on my current truck..Then there is the lift and larger tires I want.....so there goes the 5 grand.

As for performance you may be right. I cranked her up stepped on the gas and got nothing. I thought it might be that I was so used to mine with the chip or that it was cold at 7pm last night I was surprised at the low response

Don't you hate when you start talking things thru and you realize quickly that its prob not a good choice and you were acting out of emotion....real feminine of me
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:57 AM
  #8  
jeronlines's Avatar
jeronlines
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 407
Likes: 2
From: Mobile, AL
Originally Posted by i eat hybrids
Is your 6.0 trouble some or one of the reliable ones?
You've had the truck since July, can you answer the "troublesome" question? You probably already know all this, but the 2003 6.0 was not the most reliable out of the box engine. After time and money, they can be as good or better than the 7.3 for different reasons. So, if you're not banging your head against the wall cuz the engine is giving you fits then stick with what you have and save the money (cuz you already know it will be spent somehow).
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:00 AM
  #9  
twisstedex's Avatar
twisstedex
Freshman User
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
LOL.......yea i know how that goes ....id stick with one u have to
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:16 AM
  #10  
Snowseeker's Avatar
Snowseeker
Hotshot
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 13,484
Likes: 42
From: Stevens Point, WI
Originally Posted by blackx psd
You wouldn't have a payment for long. You are reaching the expected rebuild mileage on that 7.3. Can they last longer than 350-400k yes but do all 7.3's reach 400k? No.
WHAT?

7.3's are just getting broke in at 300K, 400K is a cake walk for a 7.3. Rebuild and 7.3 shouldn't really be in the same sentence ever. Unless you are talking rebuild as in replace parts on the motor? Unless factory flawed the 7.3 long block should go an easy 700K miles if maintained. It is the rest of the truck that normally can't keep up with the motor. The 7.3's that don't reach 400K are the neglected beat to death ones that have owners that don't care about them or the rare factory flawed ones.

YouTube - powerstrokehelp's Channel


However with the OP situation I would stick with the risky 6.0 in this situation because of a few reasons mileage being one of them.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:15 AM
  #11  
soutthpaw's Avatar
soutthpaw
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,009
Likes: 1
From: Colorado
For the OP, If the head studs were not done and u r running a chip you are living on borrowed time till your head gaskets go out.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 10:38 AM
  #12  
i eat hybrids's Avatar
i eat hybrids
Post Fiend
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,955
Likes: 9
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by rconnor
I have not had any trouble yet. The White Ex checked out clean at it's first check up. It just now getting cold in Atlanta so we shall see

If you havent had any problems then i wouldnt even think about it.. Trading up a truck that has half the mileage and is a couple years newer isnt the smartest thing to do.. And if the OP's 6.0 checked out then you have nothin to worry about..

Id take that 4 grand that youll save and put it in the bank for when your 6.0 "breaks" or use the money to make your 6.0 "relable" 4 grand will make a 6.0 more relable then a 7.3, if done right. If you go that route youll have the relability of a 7.3 with the 5R110 (5 speed) and a ton more power then a 7.3 will ever make.

And some 03 6.0s were very relable, but that is veryyy rare. But who knows, maybe the OP has a relable 03 6.0? You wont know unless he keeps the truck. Owning any truck/car without a warrenty is a gamble.. We all know that.

At 311,000 that 7.3 may be on its last leg or it may be just getting broken in. Some 7.3s last 700k and some last 300k. It all just depends on how well the rig is taken care of. But the OP will never know how that 7.3 was taken care of. But just because a properly maintained 7.3 will last 500-700k dont mean the truck will last.

In my opinion, keeping the 6.0 is alot less of a gamble then buying that 7.3


To the OP: What chip are you running?? And btw, you might wann get rid of that "aftermarket intake".. Your motor/turbo will love you. The OEM air filter is good up to 500 hp and filters alot better then any aftermarket filt. If you want your 6.0 to take care of you, you should take care of it.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:35 PM
  #13  
blackx psd's Avatar
blackx psd
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Nebraska
Originally Posted by Snowseeker
WHAT?

7.3's are just getting broke in at 300K, 400K is a cake walk for a 7.3. Rebuild and 7.3 shouldn't really be in the same sentence ever. Unless you are talking rebuild as in replace parts on the motor? Unless factory flawed the 7.3 long block should go an easy 700K miles if maintained. It is the rest of the truck that normally can't keep up with the motor. The 7.3's that don't reach 400K are the neglected beat to death ones that have owners that don't care about them or the rare factory flawed ones.

YouTube - powerstrokehelp's Channel


However with the OP situation I would stick with the risky 6.0 in this situation because of a few reasons mileage being one of them.
I think you need to stop drinking so much of the 7.3 kool-aid. They are good motors but they aren't a 12v cummins either.
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 05:22 PM
  #14  
Snowseeker's Avatar
Snowseeker
Hotshot
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 13,484
Likes: 42
From: Stevens Point, WI
Originally Posted by blackx psd
I think you need to stop drinking so much of the 7.3 kool-aid. They are good motors but they aren't a 12v cummins either.

And the cummins isn't a caterpillar whats the point in that? I don't see many blown up 7.3's around here, do you?
 
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 11:41 PM
  #15  
rconnor's Avatar
rconnor
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Thanks for all of the replies and advice. I've calmed down a little and I figure its best to stick with what I have. It's only been five months and while its always a gamble buying used I seemed to have lucked out with my White Ex. I know whats wrong with it (nothing) and whats right. It does not make sense to spin the wheel and take another gamble on an even older EX.

Admittedly I'm still a green newbie to the EX and car mechanics in general. I am in no way versed in engines and the like as everybody else here. I'm here to learn and the info here has been fantastic. I admit I have to google a lot of stuff I don't understand.

If anybody is in the Atlanta area the Black 7.3 Ex is in Union City Gene Evans Ford Dealer. Its in great shape body wise. For 9 grand it might be worth the gamble for somebody else who want a first or even second Ex

Thanks all.... more stupid questions soon to come
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:17 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE