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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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Why coolant through tb

Why does the coolant run through the tb on our trucks? Doesn't cooler air produce more power, so why heat it with the coolant? Has anybody routed past this without any computer problems? Thanks for any input.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2003 | 11:50 PM
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Why coolant through tb

It's to keep the throttle body from icing up for them NORTHERNERS! Us boys down SOUTH don't need that crap!

Seriously, it won't affect the computer one way or the other, and the incoming air is exposed to that MILD heat for so little time, it doesn't really affect performance.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Why coolant through tb

I always heard it was to COOL the throttle body slightly since the hot EGR is right there.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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Nope.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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Why coolant through tb

My question would be why have it on the V8's and not on the 300's ? Why would one "frost up" and not the other ?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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Why coolant through tb

I dunno, but a Ford engineer on another BBS confirmed that that's the reason for the coolant in the TB. If you want to find the thread, it's in the Bronco or '67-96 Ford Truck forum here and his username is RonBo.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Why coolant through tb

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Nope.
Why wouldn't it be? If the coolant passes through the TB when it's cold to keep it from freezing, why would it not cool the TB when it's hot?

BTW, is the coolant line the hot or cool line coming from the radiator?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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[B]Why wouldn't it be? If the coolant passes through the TB when it's cold to keep it from freezing, why would it not cool the TB when it's hot?

I agree- I think it does both. That egr gets HOT!! And everybody knows that an engine sucking cool air will run better than an engine sucking hot air. I know that 190 degree coolant is not exactly cool, but it is a lot cooler than 850(or more) degree exhaust.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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Why coolant through tb

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Why wouldn't it be? If the coolant passes through the TB when it's cold to keep it from freezing, why would it not cool the TB when it's hot?

BTW, is the coolant line the hot or cool line coming from the radiator?
IIRC, it comes from the intake, which is HOT water, but it doesn't matter.

The air passing thru the throttle body isn't exposed to that tiny slice of aluminum NEARLY long enough to change the AIR temperature, and if that was the purpose, the inside of it would be finned to transfer heat to/from the air.

But ALL that air rushing past the aluminum can chill it and cause ice to form (locking the throttle wide open), UNLESS there's a plate with hot water flowing thru it bolted tightly in between the large aluminum surfaces. And aluminum can transfer a LOT of heat.

Since the EGR only opens occasionally, the heat it carries in is small compared to what the rushing intake air can take away, and the exhaust cools a lot coming thru that thin-walled steel tube - that's why it has that insulation, keeping all that heat from melting the nearby vacuum lines and wire insulation.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Why coolant through tb

Isn't the tb close enough to the engine that you should not have the fear of freezing into a wide open position. Not only that but it also has the air off the radiator flowing over to further help it from freezing? An does the air actually flow at a fast enough rate to drop its temperature to lock the Tb open?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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Why coolant through tb

The carb on my '66 Mustang used to freeze up on me in the cold weather because I had removed the warm air intake tube to put on an open filter. The carb was a lot closer to the engine than the TB is on these engines.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Mine have been disconnected for 10 years in Ct. No problems with freezing throttle plates. Temps have dropped below zero several times.
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Why coolant through tb

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Isn't the tb close enough to the engine that you should not have the fear of freezing into a wide open position.
No. Most of the engine's heat is produced at/near the exhaust valves, so what doesn't get blown into the exhaust manifolds is picked up by the coolant in the water jacket, but that's a relatively small amount. If a significant amount came out the top of the engine at the intake manifold, how long do you think all the plastic vacuum system and wire insulation would last?
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An does the air actually flow at a fast enough rate to drop its temperature to lock the Tb open?
It's not the air that gets cooled - it's the aluminum of the throttle body & plenum. The wind chill of ~500cfm of near-freezing air makes the aluminum cold enough to instantly condense & freeze any moisture in the incoming air, especially with the pressure drop as it passes the throttle body.

But the conditions have to be just right for a significant amount of ice to form - they've just added the little heater to make it impossible.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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i have a small hole in the "freeze" plug in the side of the tb, any suggestions on how to replace this? mainly, can i do it w/o removing the tb? any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated
 
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Why coolant through tb

Use JB Kwik - it'll set up ~2min after you mix it, so it won't run like regular JB Weld.
 
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