View Poll Results: which gasoline do you buy
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20
22.73%
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8
9.09%
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5
5.68%
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55
62.50%
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From: Balfour
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Chevron is my #1 choice, everything else is next....except exxon,
and that's a purely moral thing. My buddy used to work at chevron and people would come in happy about the gas if they switched from their usual station. When lambrouginis, gtx's, cadillacs, jaguars, etc fill up it's usually at chevron. But that might be cause chevrons the only one with 94 octane...
and that's a purely moral thing. My buddy used to work at chevron and people would come in happy about the gas if they switched from their usual station. When lambrouginis, gtx's, cadillacs, jaguars, etc fill up it's usually at chevron. But that might be cause chevrons the only one with 94 octane...
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pump what the factory recommends. If it is designed for 97 and if it pings on 97, then the engine needs maintenance or repair. Putting 89 (or a higher octane) in a vehicle that was designed to run on 87 is a waste of money. my 2 cents.
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I'm military so I generally use the Army and Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) pumps. Sometimes I get 18 MPG. Other times I get 14 MPG. I am curious about that. I drive pretty much the same speed, on the same route every day. I have, however, seen different brand-name tankers filling the tanks at the AAFES station.
As I understand it, AFFES is tax free, but the price is the same as the off-post pumps. Near as I can figure, the extra money (upwards of 80 cents a gallon) goes directly into our Morale, Welfare, and Recreation fund. I don't like paying the higher price for "tax free" gas, but I hate paying taxes on stuff you cannot live without even more. At least I know where my 80 cents is going at the AAFES pumps.
As I understand it, AFFES is tax free, but the price is the same as the off-post pumps. Near as I can figure, the extra money (upwards of 80 cents a gallon) goes directly into our Morale, Welfare, and Recreation fund. I don't like paying the higher price for "tax free" gas, but I hate paying taxes on stuff you cannot live without even more. At least I know where my 80 cents is going at the AAFES pumps.
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Phillips or Conoco since they are both the same now. I have heard they don't import oil either (urban legend?). It does not matter since I have been using Phillips since 1967.
I have tried Amoco multiple times in the same vehicles as I ran Phillips in and it pinged. This was a source of amusement later on when my Father in law tried to get me to switch since he was a Standard Oil bulk agent. We would fill with his gas and take a drive somewhere and he had to sit there and listen to the ping
I DO NOT run any fuel with alcohol in it since the alcohol eats away gaskets and the water it attracts rusts tanks, lines, and corrodes aluminum parts.
I just bought a new lawn mower and the instructions prohibit the use of alcohol fuels. I found this out the hard way with my old mower when I kept having problems with water in the tank clogging everything up. I had to drain the tank and carb fuel bowl and flush it out with carb cleaner all the time. Sometimes I used carb cleaner to get the mower started then it ran rough and died constantly. When I realized what the problem was and switched to pure gas the problem went away.
Many fuel pumps do NOT post whether the fuel has alcohol in it. Some list it as some sort of "performance" or "cleaning" additive. The clerks at the station don't know anything either.
I will use alcohol fuel on a trip occasionally when I have to and I am going thru the fuel fast. I try not to let it sit in the tank and lines. Newer vehicles have coatings on the tank and lines to help prevent corrosion but the alcohol still eats gaskets and seals.
Do not run any higher octane than what your engine was designed for. You will lose gas mileage and performance. I agree with the post above that if your engine pings with the appropriate fuel it needs repair.
I have tried Amoco multiple times in the same vehicles as I ran Phillips in and it pinged. This was a source of amusement later on when my Father in law tried to get me to switch since he was a Standard Oil bulk agent. We would fill with his gas and take a drive somewhere and he had to sit there and listen to the ping
I DO NOT run any fuel with alcohol in it since the alcohol eats away gaskets and the water it attracts rusts tanks, lines, and corrodes aluminum parts.
I just bought a new lawn mower and the instructions prohibit the use of alcohol fuels. I found this out the hard way with my old mower when I kept having problems with water in the tank clogging everything up. I had to drain the tank and carb fuel bowl and flush it out with carb cleaner all the time. Sometimes I used carb cleaner to get the mower started then it ran rough and died constantly. When I realized what the problem was and switched to pure gas the problem went away.
Many fuel pumps do NOT post whether the fuel has alcohol in it. Some list it as some sort of "performance" or "cleaning" additive. The clerks at the station don't know anything either.
I will use alcohol fuel on a trip occasionally when I have to and I am going thru the fuel fast. I try not to let it sit in the tank and lines. Newer vehicles have coatings on the tank and lines to help prevent corrosion but the alcohol still eats gaskets and seals.
Do not run any higher octane than what your engine was designed for. You will lose gas mileage and performance. I agree with the post above that if your engine pings with the appropriate fuel it needs repair.
Last edited by Torque1st; Mar 23, 2003 at 11:57 AM.
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From: Southeast FLA
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I've been a Sunoco user for quite awhile now, but I've been using Sheetz (which is rumored to be Sunoco) and Exxon in that mix. Never anything cheap.
But, the last three times I was able to find an Amoco station and filled up with AMoco gas, i have been absolutely flabbergasted at my mileage increases.
The first time this happened was on a highway trip I make to visit my parents. I have made this trip many, many times before, thus I know the three exits I need to pick from to stop for fuel to make it the last 60-or-so miles. But with Amoco gas I made it the whole way without stopping for fuel. The tank stayed fuller longer.
Impressed yes, but I don't lieve near an AMoco station, so I let it go.
Just this last weekend I put Amoco to the test again on my trip to Virginia (and, also, on the way back). I can't describe enough how much longer a tank lasts me with their gas.
Too bad there aren't any stations around me though.
Best,
But, the last three times I was able to find an Amoco station and filled up with AMoco gas, i have been absolutely flabbergasted at my mileage increases.
The first time this happened was on a highway trip I make to visit my parents. I have made this trip many, many times before, thus I know the three exits I need to pick from to stop for fuel to make it the last 60-or-so miles. But with Amoco gas I made it the whole way without stopping for fuel. The tank stayed fuller longer.
Impressed yes, but I don't lieve near an AMoco station, so I let it go.
Just this last weekend I put Amoco to the test again on my trip to Virginia (and, also, on the way back). I can't describe enough how much longer a tank lasts me with their gas.
Too bad there aren't any stations around me though.
Best,
Last edited by GammaDriver; Apr 6, 2003 at 09:16 AM.
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The base I work on is WAAAAAAAY higher then outside. I am a contractor so I am unable to buy gas on base but geeeez I don't think I would want to. It is at least a .10 cheaper on the outside.
Originally posted by gatorgrabber
As I understand it, AFFES is tax free, but the price is the same as the off-post pumps. Near as I can figure, the extra money (upwards of 80 cents a gallon) goes directly into our Morale, Welfare, and Recreation fund. I don't like paying the higher price for "tax free" gas, but I hate paying taxes on stuff you cannot live without even more. At least I know where my 80 cents is going at the AAFES pumps.
As I understand it, AFFES is tax free, but the price is the same as the off-post pumps. Near as I can figure, the extra money (upwards of 80 cents a gallon) goes directly into our Morale, Welfare, and Recreation fund. I don't like paying the higher price for "tax free" gas, but I hate paying taxes on stuff you cannot live without even more. At least I know where my 80 cents is going at the AAFES pumps.
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From: Running Springs CA
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Torque1st,
Due to politics, here in Kalifornia we have an ethanol blend with no choice in the matter. It used to be MTBE, which pollutes the ground water.
Most of our oil comes out of the ground right here, not imported, yet we still are paying over $2 a gallon right next door to the refinery!
Jim
Due to politics, here in Kalifornia we have an ethanol blend with no choice in the matter. It used to be MTBE, which pollutes the ground water.
Most of our oil comes out of the ground right here, not imported, yet we still are paying over $2 a gallon right next door to the refinery!
Jim
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From: Chicago Area
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I used to prefer Amoco because it was all gasoline (no ethyl alcohol), but I don't think it still is, since BP bought them.
I do agree that the alcohol can cause damage, but we don't have a choice since the eco-***** want an oxygenator (which doesn't even help on most vehicles since the oxygen sensor compensates), and the politicians want "pork" to get the farm vote! Also, alcohol does have a lower specific heat (energy per pound), which may explain why some feel they get better mileage with (the old) Amoco.
Personally, I buy whatever is least expensive, usually at Sam's. I think they have the clout to get good stuff cheap, and anyway, I'm not convinced that there are significant differences between brands of gasoline today. I do, however, use Techron cleaner and change the fuel filter regularly.
I do agree that the alcohol can cause damage, but we don't have a choice since the eco-***** want an oxygenator (which doesn't even help on most vehicles since the oxygen sensor compensates), and the politicians want "pork" to get the farm vote! Also, alcohol does have a lower specific heat (energy per pound), which may explain why some feel they get better mileage with (the old) Amoco.
Personally, I buy whatever is least expensive, usually at Sam's. I think they have the clout to get good stuff cheap, and anyway, I'm not convinced that there are significant differences between brands of gasoline today. I do, however, use Techron cleaner and change the fuel filter regularly.
