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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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"Sloppy" feeling steering

I was hoping for some advice about a steering problem on my 02 F250 PSD.

When driving the steering feels very sloppy, it doesn't seem to naturally track and fall into a straight line like I'd expect it too.

I have taken it to the dealer about the steering box and personally fiddled with the steering box and I can make the steering looser and tighter but that doesn't seem stop the wandering, just make the steering heavier to correct.

Had a shop look at the front end, they say everything is in order, nothing worn out.

The one epiphany I had today way that this has Load Range E tires on it pumped up to max PSI. This was recommended to me for towing the 5th wheel, but I wonder if that is part of my problem?

Before getting this truck I used to drive an F150 and that was no where near as skittish.

I am going to try to let the tires down tomorrow and see if that improves the handling, but I was hoping other people might have other ideas too? When you tow, what pressure do you run the tires at?

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Gary
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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My truck has always not followed a straight line down the road, on the highway i always seemed to be correcting the path of my truck. I figured it was normal because my uncles F350 and F550 do the same thing
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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It is normal. Steering is not going to feel like a car (F-150).
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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My 07 also feels loose or sloppy in the box. It is not the front end but rather play in the steering box. I was able to tighten it up a bit so it isn't as bad but eventually I am going to be looking at a Red Head steering box.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Tires can have a lot to do with it. I don't know, I never drive a car and all our vehicles have over 100,000 miles. My 2001 F250 always drove pretty good right up to 160k When i traded. It was a little worse before replaced the ball joints.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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I'd considered changing tires, but that isn't a cheap "experiment". Ball joints were just replaced. I drive a car a lot but even when I drive my buddies Expy EL or my old F150 it isn't even close to this slop.

I have no confidence in the steering which isn't good for the long haul
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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I'd considered changing tires, but that isn't a cheap "experiment". Ball joints were just replaced. I drive a car a lot but even when I drive my buddies Expy EL or my old F150 it isn't even close to this slop.

I have no confidence in the steering which isn't good for the long haul
Expedition and F150 have the same underpinnings. Ford dumbed them down in 97 so they are anything but a real truck. Is your SD a 2wd or 4x4? If a shop has checked and found no problems in the front end, you are fine. Check the steering damper, but that probably isn't the issue.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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What you are describing is not normal. I would go to a alignment shop and get it check out. My old 250 with 145000 miles still drove like a dream.
 
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Originally Posted by Gary_W
I'd considered changing tires, but that isn't a cheap "experiment". Ball joints were just replaced. I drive a car a lot but even when I drive my buddies Expy EL or my old F150 it isn't even close to this slop.

I have no confidence in the steering which isn't good for the long haul
New tires did not change mine much.
 
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I had an 05 F150 and it drove like a car. My 06 F250 needs constant correction on the highway. Nothing major but there is no "centering" feel. I've read this a lot in truck and 4x4 magazines that test all the major trucks. I had gotten used to it until now since I've acquired a car to drive back and forth. Car has good centering so I notice it more when I hop in the truck. However, it doesnt bother me one bit. It's a heavy duty truck compared to the F150 that drives and hauls like a car. Gotta sacrifice a few things for increased capabilities.
 
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Originally Posted by Gary_W
I was hoping for some advice about a steering problem on my 02 F250 PSD.
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I am going to try to let the tires down tomorrow and see if that improves the handling, but I was hoping other people might have other ideas too? When you tow, what pressure do you run the tires at?

Thanks,

Gary
I saw a post on here where it was suggested to weigh the axles then use the following.

(Axle weight/(Max tire load x 2))*Max tire pressure

For example:
Axle weight-4000 lbs
Max tire load-3000 lbs
Max tire pressure-80 psi
(4000/(3000 x 2))*80=53
Tire pressure should be about 55 psi.

Another suggestion I read was to put chalk marks across the tires and see if the marks are evenly changed when the truck moves. If just the center is erased the tires are over inflated.

(Try at your own risk, your mileage may vary, no guarantees!)
 

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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Ford service bullitin

I had the same problem with my 2001 F250 Diesel. Ford actually has a service bullitin you find out once you visit your local dealer about the problem.

The call it wandering steering and not returning to center. Their fix is to replace the stock sealed ball joints with greaseable ones. What a screw job huh!? My truck has done it for years and finally the ball joints were worn out so I was forced to replace them anyway, it took care of the issue!!! Also i added a steering stabilizer shock. This is only a $100 project and helps it from wandering when hitting a big bump and high speeds.

My truck was so bad that if you turned the wheel all one way in a parking lot it would just stay in that position "with no hands".

Hope this helps.....
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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I am going to try to let the tires down tomorrow and see if that improves the handling, but I was hoping other people might have other ideas too? When you tow, what pressure do you run the tires at?

Thanks,

Gary
Did you try reducing the tire pressure yet?
 
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