no manual for2011
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no manual for2011
Been waiting for the 2011,s but was very disappointed to find out that an automatic is all that is available.... not happy about this. Will this have an impact on anyone elses decision on staying with Ford? I'm hoping that this is some silly experiment that the brain trust is trying but will find the error's in there way and will offer the manual transmission again in 2012. Do any of the big three really "listen to the customers" ?
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First, Welcome to FTE! 
Remember that the take rate for the manual transmissions was really low, and that made it hard to justify keeping the option.
The new 6R140 allows you to shift it just like a manual as well as lock out gears in automatic mode to give the driver more control over the transmission.
What exactly about a manual transmission do you desire?
They do, but remember they are going to listen more to the 95% of us who prefer an automatic over the few percent that prefer a manual. They couldn't justify it financially to keep the manual option.
Remember that the take rate for the manual transmissions was really low, and that made it hard to justify keeping the option.
The new 6R140 allows you to shift it just like a manual as well as lock out gears in automatic mode to give the driver more control over the transmission.
What exactly about a manual transmission do you desire?
They do, but remember they are going to listen more to the 95% of us who prefer an automatic over the few percent that prefer a manual. They couldn't justify it financially to keep the manual option.
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Is it really only 5% manual take rate? Or are you just guessing at that?
Anyway, like I posted in the poll thread, this is the first automatic I've had in any vehicle ever and yet I voted in the poll that I wouldn't take the manual if it was available. The reason is you can make this automatic do whatever you want either with the manual mode shifting or keeping gears locked out in D. That was always my main issue with automatics that they'd do whatever they wanted but now you can make them do what you want. So as a reformed, die hard, manual driver, I can recommend this automatic to anybody on the fence.
Anyway, like I posted in the poll thread, this is the first automatic I've had in any vehicle ever and yet I voted in the poll that I wouldn't take the manual if it was available. The reason is you can make this automatic do whatever you want either with the manual mode shifting or keeping gears locked out in D. That was always my main issue with automatics that they'd do whatever they wanted but now you can make them do what you want. So as a reformed, die hard, manual driver, I can recommend this automatic to anybody on the fence.
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It's an educated guess. I've read numbers before, and if I remember right it was between 2-3% take rate. Don't remember where though, and I figured I'd be conservative and put down 5%.
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Hard to find perfect - anywhere; here on earth at least. My take is Ford has done a pretty great job putting the 2011 Super Duty together. I've never been more pleased with any other vehicle I've owned. Just this morning I put my F250 SD 4x4 6.7L in the manual six speed mode and shifted using the "+" and "-" on the shift lever. Worked to my satisfaction. I hope you find what your looking for.
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You must also realize many manufactures will not be offering manual transmissions anymore. It has a lot to do with emissions, with a manual you can not control emissions system warm up very well which increases emissions. It is to the point now that new auto trannies have special warm up shift modes and not sure if the 6 speed does it but the 5 speed used another gear only available during cold conditions to heat up the engine and emissions equipment. You can also map your fuel curve with an auto unlike a manual.So you will be seeing these go by the way side by 2014 and then you will pay a fee to have one on the few sports cars that still have them as an option it will be a EPA emissions levy surcharge. This is real and will be happening in the next few years.
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First of all Thank you for the response. I spend a great amount of time up in the woods on some well maintained logging roads and some that are not so great. When decending down some of the steeper roads by throwing the manual into grandma (L) she will creep right down under 5 mph while never having to ride the break. With an automatic the only way your going to do that is to come to almost a complete stop and throw her into 4 wheel low.
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You must also realize many manufactures will not be offering manual transmissions anymore. It has a lot to do with emissions, with a manual you can not control emissions system warm up very well which increases emissions. It is to the point now that new auto trannies have special warm up shift modes and not sure if the 6 speed does it but the 5 speed used another gear only available during cold conditions to heat up the engine and emissions equipment. You can also map your fuel curve with an auto unlike a manual.So you will be seeing these go by the way side by 2014 and then you will pay a fee to have one on the few sports cars that still have them as an option it will be a EPA emissions levy surcharge. This is real and will be happening in the next few years.
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I think in the autos they say that you should be either stopped or moving slightly forward when shifting into 4wheel low. I will probably head down to the local dealer and take onre out for a spin, locate a fairly steep hill and see how the "manual" shift works.
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The "hill descent control" is an optional feature for extra downhill control at speeds below 20 MPH, and in the two times I've tried it, it works quite well.
I've driven more than my share of automatic and manual transmission 4X4s over a variety of bad roads and no roads at all (including the Rubicon trail), and I'd take an automatic over a manual any day of the week.
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The only thing that I find operationally different between our automatic transmissions and manuals is the lack of a clutch which provides the ability to engage it and coast or up or down shift two gears at a time. I have a small commuter car that is manual for commuting and enjoy driving it in light traffic, but on Houston freeways, dense city traffic or hilly terrain, not so much.
As an aside it should be noted that when operating our transmissions in the manual mode it will downshift by itself (although not down to 1st gear) or you can downshift "at will".
This is just a guess but I would think that if you are coming down slope with a load you could easily keep the rig under 20 MPH by selecting any one or a combination of:
HDC
4L
Manually selecting 1st gear (utilizing engine brake as the manual does)
H/T mode with exhaust brake
4 wheel disc brakes.