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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Help Identifying Under Hood Components Requested

Howdy all,

I have a new-to-me 1986 F-150 Supercab that I am trying to learn about so I can work on it. There are a few components under the hood that I am not able to identify for myself, nor does either Haynes or Chilton's manuals have pictures of these components. Would one of you kind folks please tell this ignorant shade tree parts changer what these components are?



Sorry the images are not separated better.

TIA!

Frank
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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The first is the charcoal vapor canister, it collects fumes from the gas tank and is part of
the Evaporative Emissions Control System.

Not sure about the others, somebody else will have to answer there....

Hey, Frank, could you do me a favor and fill out the rest of your profile so we can see
where you're from? Click the "User CP" link in the upper RH corner, a list of things that
can be adjusted will be on the LH column.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Wow, this reminds me of when I first joined... I asked the very same questions!


OKAY!

Ctubutis is right, the first one is the charcoal vapor canister. (Looks like it's missing some hoses)

Second picture, where is that located in the truck? I think it's located near the heater blower motor, but i'm not sure...


The third picture is your Electronic Emissions Controller, the EEC. Make sure that's hooked up.


Hope this helps, Frank!


(I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO ANSWER A QUESTION! It's true what they say, you do learn stuff here...)
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Second is air pump controls, not sure what order. TAB, TAD and bypass.
Third looks to me like a map sensor, but mine is vertical not horizontal. Is that the same as the EEC in last post.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
The first is the charcoal vapor canister, it collects fumes from the gas tank and is part of
the Evaporative Emissions Control System.

Not sure about the others, somebody else will have to answer there....

Hey, Frank, could you do me a favor and fill out the rest of your profile so we can see
where you're from? Click the "User CP" link in the upper RH corner, a list of things that
can be adjusted will be on the LH column.
Thanks for the help ctubutis! That would explain why it is open to the air. And yes, I will fill out the rest of my profile shortly. Thanks for reminding me!
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wicked Endings
Wow, this reminds me of when I first joined... I asked the very same questions!


OKAY!

Ctubutis is right, the first one is the charcoal vapor canister. (Looks like it's missing some hoses)

Second picture, where is that located in the truck? I think it's located near the heater blower motor, but i'm not sure...


The third picture is your Electronic Emissions Controller, the EEC. Make sure that's hooked up.


Hope this helps, Frank!


(I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO ANSWER A QUESTION! It's true what they say, you do learn stuff here...)
You have been a great help Wicked Endings! Thank you.

There are two open ports on the top of the charcoal canister (they have always been open as long as I have owned the truck). Where do the missing hoses connect and what degree of harm will it do to the truck if the missing hoses remain missing?

The second item is located on the passenger side of the engine compartment, forward of the blower motor. It appears to have both vacuum and electrical connections to it, although I cannot be certain of this.

Thanks for identify this component as the EEC. It is connected. Hypothetically, if it were to be disconnected, the truck wouldn't run, would it?

Thanks again!

Frank
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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What engine does this truck have, and what engine is it supposed to have by the radiator sticker? If some of this stuff is disconnected, we need a overall picture of the engine compartment, and some understanding of what engine is in it and how much original stuff has been disturbed. If it's really out of wack, the best solution may be to ignore this disconnected stuff. Take a picture of the distributor. Does it have a vacuum line to it? Does the radiator sticker say EECIV or EECIII?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vwbill
Second is air pump controls, not sure what order. TAB, TAD and bypass.
Third looks to me like a map sensor, but mine is vertical not horizontal. Is that the same as the EEC in last post.
Thanks for clarifying what the second component is vwbill. The third component is what Wicked Endings identified as the EEC.

Frank
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
What engine does this truck have, and what engine is it supposed to have by the radiator sticker? If some of this stuff is disconnected, we need a overall picture of the engine compartment, and some understanding of what engine is in it and how much original stuff has been disturbed. If it's really out of wack, the best solution may be to ignore this disconnected stuff. Take a picture of the distributor. Does it have a vacuum line to it? Does the radiator sticker say EECIV or EECIII?
Thanks for responding Dave.

The engine is the 5.0L EFI. There is no vacuum line to the distributor. From appearances (at least to my undereducated eyes), there does not appear to be a lot under the hood that's been disturbed. Actually, the truck runs pretty well after having replaced the distributor cap, rotor, plugs and plug wires. I was not able to locate the radiator sticker you mentioned, however I believe there was only one ignition system option available with the 5.0L EFI engine package (although I do not recall what that option was).

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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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CORRECTION!

Lord Dark Star, I was sitting and I realized that I was wrong about the EEC Sensor.

That is actually the MAP Sensor.

vwbill was correct.

(I was still tired when I answered the question in the beginning)


But yes, it is the MAP Sensor.

MAP stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure.

The MAP Sensor sends information to the ECU, the electronic control unit.

So, is it the MAP Sensor.


Sorry about the confusion. Next time i'll double check my answer.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Question- I have an '84 F150 with a 300 I6, and since I swapped the TFI ignition for a DSII system, and swapped out the feedback carb for a standard carb, I was able to unhook the ECU and pull it out of the truck. Since I've been able to do this, I should be able to pull out the MAP sensor too, right?
 
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Originally Posted by dyingtolive
Question- I have an '84 F150 with a 300 I6, and since I swapped the TFI ignition for a DSII system, and swapped out the feedback carb for a standard carb, I was able to unhook the ECU and pull it out of the truck. Since I've been able to do this, I should be able to pull out the MAP sensor too, right?
Yes. The MAP sensor has a vacuum line going to it, and it converts the variable level of vacuum from the engine to a variable voltage that the computer can read. Since you have no computer, no need for a MAP sensor.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord Dark Star
Thanks for responding Dave.

The engine is the 5.0L EFI. There is no vacuum line to the distributor. From appearances (at least to my undereducated eyes), there does not appear to be a lot under the hood that's been disturbed. Actually, the truck runs pretty well after having replaced the distributor cap, rotor, plugs and plug wires. I was not able to locate the radiator sticker you mentioned, however I believe there was only one ignition system option available with the 5.0L EFI engine package (although I do not recall what that option was).

Frank
Ok. I was just afraid you had a inline six, which has lots of computer controls on it this year, and still has a carb on it too.

You should have a sticker on the radiator support that says EECIV, and also tells you the type sparkplugs and how to time it. Here's a site that you need to read up on, since it describes the fuel injection system you have. Ford Fuel Injection
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Thanks for the info on the fuel injection. I have the link bookmarked.

Frank
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
Yes. The MAP sensor has a vacuum line going to it, and it converts the variable level of vacuum from the engine to a variable voltage that the computer can read. Since you have no computer, no need for a MAP sensor.
So THAT'S how that works. Awesome. Thanks!
 
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