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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Hello everyone i want to get in to camping and traveling with a 5th wheel. I am new to in all and i been online looking at camper and going to lot and walking throogh a few i like. The problem or the qusetion is the toy hauler that i really like is a 40 foot long camper that weights 13k empty and can be loaded to 18k what size truck will i need to do it.I was wondering if a 2005 F250 with the 6.0 powerstroke will do it. do anyone know if any engine and transmission and brake upgrades will help. the big deal is stopping the trailer i have seen F250's pulling some serious load but i want to do it safely also. I know there are upgrades that will take these 325 hp engines up to 450 and even 600+ hp and i am sure the touqe also increase so iam thinking that the towing weight will increase also. I know rotors and brake upgrades will be needed to stop the extra weight but any info will help thanks in advance.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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An F250 won't do it. I believe you are going to need at least a dually F350, and probably an F450. I'm just saying that off the top of my head, and you definitely want to research the tow ratings for the trucks. It varys by model year, and you can find them here: https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...ng/default.asp

A 40' toyhauler is a big trailer. Be prepared and aware before you jump into a rig that large.

Also, a 5th wheel will load about 25% of the total weight on the truck, and that is known as pin weight. So an 18k# trailer will load about 4,500# on the truck. Be sure to check that rating on the truck you select.

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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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NO! An F-250 will not tow an 18000lb safely. It's not the PS it's the suspension, payload, brakes, ect, ect. You can find a smaller 5th wheel toy hauler if you look. I would'nt go any heavier than about 12500lbs loaded, with a 250 PS. For 18000lbs, you need at least an f-350 dually!
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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I pulled a 40 foot Toy Hauler for a friend back in the summer. It was 105 on that day. His had a malfunction, won't go into to that. He was loaded down pretty good, I have no idea the weight but it squated me squarely on overloads. I only traveled about 45 miles. I will tell you, I have a F-250, 6.4 and I had plenty of power to pull but It was not really a fun trip. I just did not feel safe with the load. I agree totally with "bpounds". I would go to a 450, I really don't think the 350 is right for the load. Others I am sure will disagree. Being that the 350 is a glorified 250, I would not risk it and move on up to something that you "know" will do it. Or look for something more in line with what a 250 can pull properly. Remember, 18k is what the 5er is rated loaded, your truck will be around 8k loaded with stuff in the back, fuel, wood, and whatever, you are looking at 25 to 26k in total weight if you do a max out. 23k is the GCWR of a 2007 6.0. Ummm, look at that closely.
 

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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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I agree with all that is said so far, my 5er is a 40' that comes in at 14K. This summer I went cross country with it, loaded for bear and more, I was topping 15K plus 6 people.

That basically maxed out my truck. Truck did just fine but anymore and I would what a bigger rig.

You need to stick around the 14-15K max gross and then also consider the king pin wt. gonna be around 15-20% on a regular 5er.

Look at your rear axle rating..matter of fact load your truck up with passengers and full fuel and go put it on the scale and see where you are at.

Go to a cat scale where it will do each axle separatly and then give you the total.
 
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